[broze]

Play 3NT Team scoring.

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East's 2♠ bid shows 5-5 in the "extreme" suits (hearts and clubs).

West plays the Q♦ to East's Ace. East switches to K♥.

Spoiler tags please.

[gnasher]

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♥A, ♠AQ (RHO showing out), ♣AK, ♦K, diamond, endplaying LHO.

[nige1]

gnasher, on 2013-December-26, 18:34, said:

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♥A, ♠AQ (RHO showing out), ♣AK, ♦K, diamond, endplaying LHO.

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Good stuff. Tough if LHO has 6 ♦. And perhaps you should duck a ♦ first, in case RHO had ♦A9x? Also, If a cunning LHO has ♦QJT(x)2 (say) he can end-play declarer. Maybe there is more to this problem

[MrAce]

nige1, on 2013-December-26, 18:58, said:

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Good stuff. Tough if LHO has 6 ♦. And perhaps you should duck a ♦ first, in case RHO has 3? Also, If a cunning LHO has ♦QJT2 (say) he can end-play declarer. Maybe there is more to this problem

No

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If that was the case (E holding Axx dia) he would have already defeated 3NT by ducking the first dia

[broze]

nige1, on 2013-December-26, 18:58, said:

Maybe there is more to this problem

[CSGibson]

I'd rather play 3♣ doubled.

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but I'm going to make this, I think. Either spades comes home for 5 tricks naturally, or I can squeeze W out of a winning diamond by cashing my rounded suits before endplaying him in diamonds to lead a spade in the end position - and it will be 100% clear. I expect a layout like Txxxx x QJTxxx x for this to be any kind of problem. So, to summarize, I'm winning the A of hearts, cashing the AQ of spades, crossing in clubs (cashing both, pitching a diamond), then cashing the K of spades, crossing in diamonds and trying to endplay LHO in diamonds, assuming he kept all of his spades (as he had to). I'll try the same thing if RHO shows out of spades on the Ace, hoping that he is 6-5 for his bid and LHO still has to win the 3rd diamond, or that LHO has QJT9.

I guess LHO can spoil this by ducking the diamond end-play, if he makes that play, hats off to him.

[nige1]

CSGibson, on 2013-December-26, 19:22, said:

I'd rather play 3♣ doubled.

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but I'm going to make this, I think. Either spades comes home for 5 tricks naturally, or I can squeeze W out of a winning diamond by cashing my rounded suits before endplaying him in diamonds to lead a spade in the end position - and it will be 100% clear. I expect a layout like Txxxx x QJTxxx x for this to be any kind of problem. So, to summarize, I'm winning the A of hearts, cashing the AQ of spades, crossing in clubs (cashing both), then cashing the K of spades, crossing in diamonds and endplaying LHO in diamonds, assuming he kept all of his spades (as he had to). I'll try the same thing if RHO shows out of spades on the Ace, hoping that he is 6-5 for his bid and LHO still has to win the 3rd diamond, or that LHO has QJT9.

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Again: what if a cunning LHO lets declarer win the 4th round of ♦?

[CSGibson]

nige1, on 2013-December-26, 19:38, said:

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Again: what if a cunning LHO lets declarer win the 4th round of ♦?

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Then I go down - but I'm pitching a diamond on the clubs, so he better let him win the 3rd round. You're reply cross-posted with my edit

[MrAce]

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I think ya'll trying to end play the wrong opponent , not sure if E is endplayable though

[nige1]

CSGibson, on 2013-December-26, 19:41, said:

You're reply cross-posted with my edit

No problem: I'm afraid I'm regularly guilty of posting in haste and embellishing at leisure

[MrAce]

How about this ?

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I think we can play ♥ A, ♠ AQ, assume E discarded something on 2nd spade, we now play ♣ to A, cash 1 more spade honor and watch what east discards, he will discard another heart but it doesn't matter, now we exit with low club from dummy, E wins and now W has to discard something on 2nd club, assume he discarded diamond from his remaining 5 card diamonds, now E exits with Q of ♣ which we discard hearts and W has to discard again, if he keeps low diamond then we win the ♣ K and endplay W by playing spades, his diamond spots will be endplayed. If he keeps high diamond spots we endplay him by playing diamond. Basically i am playing E for something like x KQT9x A QJTxxx and W for Txxxx x QJTxxx x same as Chris's prediction

[CSGibson]

MrAce, on 2013-December-26, 20:02, said:

How about this ?

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I think we can play ♥ A, ♠ AQ, assume E discarded something on 2nd spade, we now play ♣ to A, cash 1 more spade honor and watch what east discards, he will discard another heart but it doesn't matter, now we exit with low club from dummy, E wins and now W has to discard something on 2nd club, assume he discarded diamond from his remaining 5 card diamonds, now E exits with Q of ♣ which we discard hearts and W has to discard again, if he keeps low diamond then we win the ♣ K and endplay W by playing spades, his diamond spots will be endplayed. If he keeps high diamond spots we endplay him by playing diamond. Basically i am playing E for something like x KQT9x A QJTxxx and W for Txxxx x QJTxxx x same as Chris's prediction

Timo, that's unsporting. I, and other, better players gave LHO a chance to make a spectacular defensive duck and impress everyone - you have cold heartedly taken that away….

[nige1]

MrAce, on 2013-December-26, 20:02, said:

How about this ?

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I think we can play ♥ A, ♠ AQ, assume E discarded something on 2nd spade, we now play ♣ to A, cash 1 more spade honor and watch what east discards, he will discard another heart but it doesn't matter, now we exit with low club from dummy, E wins and now W has to discard something on 2nd club, assume he discarded diamond from his remaining 5 card diamonds, now E exits with Q of ♣ which we discard hearts and W has to discard again, if he keeps low diamond then we win the ♣ K and endplay W by playing spades, his diamond spots will be endplayed. If he keeps high diamond spots we endplay him by playing diamond. Basically i am playing E for something like x KQT9x A QJTxxx and W for Txxxx x QJTxxx x same as Chris's prediction

Beautiful

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assuming RHO has singleton ♦A

[madongjun]

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I think you win 5 spades,1 heart,1 diamond,2 clubs==9 tricks

[MrAce]

nige1, on 2013-December-26, 20:46, said:

Beautiful

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assuming RHO has singleton ♦A

I don't think it is makeable if RHO has more than 1 dia.

[nige1]

MrAce, on 2013-December-27, 03:19, said:

I don't think it is makeable if RHO has more than 1 dia.

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It seems a difficult contract against inspired defence. For example, if ♣ are led at trick 1 or 2. But it's still a good problem and Mr Ace's solution is pretty.

[gnasher]

MrAce, on 2013-December-26, 20:02, said:

How about this ?

Spoiler

I think we can play ♥ A, ♠ AQ, assume E discarded something on 2nd spade, we now play ♣ to A, cash 1 more spade honor and watch what east discards, he will discard another heart but it doesn't matter, now we exit with low club from dummy, E wins and now W has to discard something on 2nd club, assume he discarded diamond from his remaining 5 card diamonds, now E exits with Q of ♣ which we discard hearts and W has to discard again, if he keeps low diamond then we win the ♣ K and endplay W by playing spades, his diamond spots will be endplayed. If he keeps high diamond spots we endplay him by playing diamond. Basically i am playing E for something like x KQT9x A QJTxxx and W for Txxxx x QJTxxx x same as Chris's prediction

Maybe I'm being thick, but I don't think this works. East discards clubs on the early spades, then when we duck a club to him West throws a spade. Now East plays hearts to lock us in hand. The defence makes at least three hearts, a club and a diamond.

Another thing that I don't think works is trying to hold a conversation with all the text hidden.

[MrAce]

gnasher, on 2013-December-28, 00:34, said:

Maybe I'm being thick, but I don't think this works. East discards clubs on the early spades, then when we duck a club to him West throws a spade. Now East plays hearts to lock us in hand. The defence makes at least three hearts, a club and a diamond.

Another thing that I don't think works is trying to hold a conversation with all the text hidden.

If east discards clubs on early spades. you do not duck club, you then simply cash all spade honors and throw in E in clubs after cashing remaining club honor, he will give you a heart for your 9th trick I thought that would be easy thats why i expected E to discard hearts.

And i also agree that this spoiler thing started to get on my nerves. But nothing much i can do since OP requested it specifically.

[broze]

CSGibson, on 2013-December-26, 19:22, said:

I'd rather play 3♣ doubled.

Yes, I was having trouble coming up with a plausible auction. You can pretend it is BAM if you want.


Great analysis here, and very attractive solution by Mr Ace, although just to muddy the waters a tad, you were not quite correct when you said this:

MrAce, on 2013-December-27, 03:19, said:

I don't think it is makeable if RHO has more than 1 dia.

although nige1 did well to notice that a cunning LHO can defeat you on most layouts. It's a very cool deal.

Feel free to stop using Spoiler tags btw. I find it beneficial for the first 2 or three posts when I accidentally scroll down and see the answer but after that don't worry too much. I'll post the full hand tomorrow some time.

[EricK]

Unblock D6 on first round playing RHO for A2. Then LHO can't avoid throw in?