[Fluffy]

all vul, IMPs, partner deals and opens a strong club

♠K963
♥97632
♦7532
♣-

1♣!-(pass)-1♦!-(2♦)
X - ( 2 NT )-3♦-(pass)
3♠-(pass)- ??


by agreement partner's double of 2♦ is take out, but cannot be a balanced minimum 16-17(18) hand, so either 16+ with short diamond or 19(18)+ balanced with 2, or perhaps stronger with 3.

[gnasher]

I'd bid game, but I think it's close. Partner's having only three hearts is bad news, but he's got two ways to make - a crossruff and setting up the hearts - and it may be hard for them to prevent both.

[JLOGIC]

I would pass, I already bid 3D partner is allowed to bid game himself.

[yin970902]

I would pass,our ♠ is not enough to cross ruff.opps' 2NT let ♥ look like having a loss.

[Fluffy]

Thx for the replies, partner had:

♠AQxx
♥AQxx
♦x
♣KQxx


I almost posted the hand as ATB.

Partner raised an interesting though. Since you are normally picking hearts when you have equal minimum lenght (3-3 in this case, but 2-2 in other both majors situations). bidding spades with equal maximum lenght is more descriptive/encouraging as it assures 4 cards now. What do you people think?


3♠ went 1 down where 4♥ would make.

[han]

Maybe partner should bid 4H, they are probably leading diamonds anyway so you don't have anything in your hand that you need to protect.

[gnasher]

Fluffy, on 2012-June-07, 08:58, said:

Partner raised an interesting though. Since you are normally picking hearts when you have equal minimum lenght (3-3 in this case, but 2-2 in other both majors situations). bidding spades with equal maximum lenght is more descriptive/encouraging as it assures 4 cards now. What do you people think?

I don't think our bidding should cater for the possibility that opener is 3-3 in the majors. With a 3325 19-count, he should bid 3NT, 4♣ or 4♦ rather than risking playing a 4-3 fit with a 5-3 major-suit fit available.

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3♠ went 1 down where 4♥ would make.

It looks like 3♠ should be cold. How did he lose more than two hearts, a club and a diamond?

[Fluffy]

I didn´t follow the play but spades were 4-1 for sure

[gszes]

i came here late but seeing the hands did nothing to change my opinion



after p bids x our hand has gone from 0-7 to a GF. There is a strong chance
we not only have a double fit but our club void has a ton of value for game
purposes. I like the 3d bid asking p to choose a major and I would have bid
3h (not 3s) for flexibility purposes alone. If p bids 3h there can be no doubt
we are going to 4h. Even with p bidding 3s I am headed for game and trust
my 4h bid will describe my 45 majors and let p choose.

[dake50]

Did their 2NT clarify that we have Majors?
I try 4H over 3S. Partner should read that as H > 4xS
for my Q-bid.
Interesting hijack if my hand were 6xH w 4xS.
Bid 3H instead of 3D Q-bid? Lose 4-4 Spades
or does partner 3S over 3H just-in-case?
Jump 4D Q-bid means? Repeat 4D Q-bid means?
Both after 1D:neg.