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Posted 2009-April-06, 10:48

None Vul, IMPs

♠Jx
♥x
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♣AKTx

1♥*-(pass)-1NT-(2♠)
pass-(pass)-???

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Posted 2009-April-06, 10:55

I assume opener's double would be TO?

If so, I will also make a TOx.
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Posted 2009-April-06, 10:56

Phil, on Apr 6 2009, 12:55 PM, said:

I assume opener's double would be TO?

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Posted 2009-April-06, 11:05

I pass. I worry that anything I do to reopen could lead to the wrong suit, or that neither side even has a fit.
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Posted 2009-April-06, 11:31

Pass, unless 2NT shows this hand, lol.
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Posted 2009-April-06, 11:34

helene_t, on Apr 6 2009, 01:31 PM, said:

Pass, unless 2NT shows this hand, lol.

If by "shows this hand" you mean "pick a minor", then no. However double "shows this hand"

If you meant anything more specific (for instance, showing a preference for one minor over the other), then there is no call that shows this hand.
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Posted 2009-April-06, 11:43

Apollo81, on Apr 6 2009, 06:34 PM, said:

helene_t, on Apr 6 2009, 01:31 PM, said:

Pass, unless 2NT shows this hand, lol.

If by "shows this hand" you mean "pick a minor", then no. However double "shows this hand"

If you meant anything more specific (for instance, showing a preference for one minor over the other), then there is no call that shows this hand.

Yeah, I mean something more specific. I suppose p could scramble with 2NT over our double. But wouldn't he bid 3♥ with a 6223?
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Posted 2009-April-06, 11:47

Yeah, 3♥ on 2623 or 2632 or 3622? Or 3♣ with a 3523? Or 2NT to choose between hearts and clubs with a 2614? Those are some of the cases that worry me, that we will have a fit and not even find it.
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Posted 2009-April-06, 14:20

Dbl for me. Pard can always bid 2NT with equal length in the minors.
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Posted 2009-April-06, 14:29

If I have both double and 2NT available for takeout, I think double invites him to bid 3♥ with six, but 2NT doesn't, or not as much anyway.

I'd just bid 3♦, though. I only want to play in clubs opposite 1-4 in the minors, but if I offer him a choice we'll end up in clubs opposite 1-3, 2-3 and even 3-3. The arguments for pass are quite strong too.
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Posted 2009-April-06, 15:13

Agree with 3D...we do have 6 of them. I think jdonn actually never balances anymore :)
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Posted 2009-April-07, 10:06

Scoring: IMP


I balanced with 3♦ which went -2. I think this was a push.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 10:41

JLOL, on Apr 6 2009, 04:13 PM, said:

Agree with 3D...we do have 6 of them. I think jdonn actually never balances anymore :)

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