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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2009-April-06, 08:32

Axx
AQTxx
x
xxxx

p-p-1♥-2♣
x-2♦-p-p
2♥-3♣-p-p
3♥-p-?

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Posted 2009-April-06, 08:38

Pass. What was partner's double?

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2009-April-06, 08:38

I'm not making 4♥ on a trump lead... Pass.
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Posted 2009-April-06, 08:39

Hanoi5, on Apr 6 2009, 09:38 AM, said:

Pass. What was partner's double?

Maybe stolen bid for Drury... ;)
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Posted 2009-April-06, 08:48

Pass. I guess the reason this is here is pard misbid.
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Posted 2009-April-06, 08:58

mtvesuvius, on Apr 6 2009, 09:39 AM, said:

Hanoi5, on Apr 6 2009, 09:38 AM, said:

Pass. What was partner's double?

Maybe stolen bid for Drury... ;)

Seriously. If partner can support hearts twice, why didn't he do so on the first round? 2♥ or 3♣ would make a lot more sense (and have kept the opps out of our auction too).
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Posted 2009-April-06, 09:08

Pass. And tell partner he shouldn't double with a ♥ fit!
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Posted 2009-April-06, 14:13

If we pass and partner puts down KQxxx KJx xxx xx, is that just unlucky, or did one of us misbid?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-April-06, 14:24

Yes, pard.

You don't dbl that hand. You cue in support of hearts.
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Posted 2009-April-06, 15:12

Easy pass. Partner can bid his stiff club too.
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Posted 2009-April-06, 16:11

FWIW, I'm not all that sure I would beat up Responder for the double here.

Suppose partner has 3♥/4♠. Maybe he is concerned about the risk of a third-seat opening where Opener has 4-4 in the majors, an uber-weak hand, and a desire for a heart lead. This is not a pure situation, as Opener may well have a four-card heart suit.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 03:50

QJTxx
Kxx
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Kx

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Posted 2009-April-07, 03:53

Yeah, pard should read some books. A hand that bids like pard did shows diamond values.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 04:56

If the x shows 4+S, just as a matter of interest, what does 1S show?
Anyway your partner should raise h with this hand.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 05:17

The_Hog, on Apr 7 2009, 11:56 AM, said:

If the x shows 4+S, just as a matter of interest, what does 1S show?

That means that you want a spade lead if LHO accepts your insufficient bid.
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Posted 2009-April-07, 06:18

I don't understand the criticism of partner's bidding (either before or after Gwnn told us what his hand was). Partner has a fairly balanced 3-card raise with a spade suit, and he found a way to show it. What's so bad about that?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-April-07, 09:27

gnasher, on Apr 7 2009, 07:18 AM, said:

I don't understand the criticism of partner's bidding (either before or after Gwnn told us what his hand was). Partner has a fairly balanced 3-card raise with a spade suit, and he found a way to show it. What's so bad about that?

I would certainly criticize it since partner just got lucky to be able to show his hand, on many auctions he would never be able to show his heart support.

However since he did get to show his hand, and in this case it could have helped us if anything, it's certainly wrong to assign him any blame for the result.
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Posted 2009-April-08, 03:22

helene_t, on Apr 7 2009, 06:17 PM, said:

The_Hog, on Apr 7 2009, 11:56 AM, said:

If the x shows 4+S, just as a matter of interest, what does 1S show?

That means that you want a spade lead if LHO accepts your insufficient bid.

Doh! :)
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Posted 2009-April-08, 05:02

Edit, sorry got the auction wrong :-)

Would pass now.
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