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Posted 2026-November-07, 16:16

Lost my phone for a few days, with hindsight recommend it to anyone (it's amazing how many things there are to read in newspapers and magazines or to discuss by actually talking).

Some ongoing battles and many interesting hands to catch up, but let's settle for this hand.

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Your call as South?
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Posted 2026-November-07, 16:25

1C
I have three first round controls
Not much else

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Posted 2026-November-07, 16:59

geeze, I think I would pass. 2 Aces don't make it an opening hand, does the void get us there?

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Posted 2026-November-07, 17:07

View Postjillybean, on 2026-November-07, 16:59, said:

geeze, I think I would pass. 2 Aces don't make it an opening hand, does the void get us there?


All my club passed, just testing the waters.
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Posted 2026-November-07, 17:13

In my light opening Precision partnership, this is 2D, but otherwise pass.

I wouldn't object to a partnership agreement to open 1C, but I wouldn't usually (sometimes I feel like fooling around) spring it on an unsuspecting partner.
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Posted 2026-November-07, 17:36

View Postmike777, on 2026-November-07, 16:25, said:

1C
I have three first round controls
Not much else

Happy to see you back

You are the last person I'd expect to see opening this hand :)
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Posted 2026-November-07, 19:28

 jillybean, on 2026-November-07, 17:36, said:

You are the last person I'd expect to see opening this hand :)


If needed I am willing to rebid 2C on a five card club suit on these hand types. They do come up often enough

We usually get out in 2c or 2d. Or the opponents come in..
Opponents seem to love to bid over 2+ club openings..
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Posted 2026-November-07, 19:55

View Postmike777, on 2026-November-07, 19:28, said:

If needed I am willing to rebid 2C on a five card club suit on these hand types. They do come up often enough


How would this auction go?
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Posted 2026-November-07, 20:48

 jillybean, on 2026-November-07, 19:55, said:

How would this auction go?


What auction?
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Posted 2026-November-07, 22:43

Pass, 1♣ or 2♦/2♥ (depending on partner) Majors. Hmm

Pass - not with both Majors and that shape.

If 1♣ we likely find the Major fit anyway, but If partner has weak ♦ only we could be in 1N or 2♦. If partner has a modicum of values, but we misfit 3N may be too high.

If 2♦ we could end up playing in the Moysian, or miss game.

I open 1♦ (unbalanced) on 10 counts so would go for 1♣ here.
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Posted 2026-November-07, 23:45

View Postmike777, on 2026-November-07, 19:28, said:

If needed I am willing to rebid 2C on a five card club suit on these hand types. They do come up often enough



View Postmike777, on 2026-November-07, 20:48, said:

What auction?

Where you would rebid 2♣
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Posted 2026-November-08, 00:31

 jillybean, on 2026-November-07, 23:45, said:

Where you would rebid 2♣


After 1C-1S
1S=bal 6-10 roughly or diamonds

I rebid 2C
Notice opponents with majors and HCP are silent..
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Posted 2026-November-08, 02:52

Hi,

I likely would go with 1C.

Make it a spade void, I am likely to pass.

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Posted 2026-November-08, 03:38

a)

MP



b)

MP



c)

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Posted 2026-November-08, 03:42

a) this is easy, X
b) 3H, we have a fit, I show it
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Posted 2026-November-08, 04:15

a) X
b) this one's tricky, 3♥ may be an underbid and 4♥ an overbid. Possibly X if agreement is not for penalties.
c) 2♥, for me, this is stronger than 1♥ as I complete with WeakNT (playing) strength.
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Posted 2026-November-08, 05:28

I would open 1♣ and think that, while you can't take away much from this hand and still open, the decision is still very clear to me. I expect my partner to feel the same way.

If partner responds 1♥ I have an easy 3♥ call. If anything we might be on the strong side for this, with the diamond void. But I'm not forcing to game opposite nothing more than a response. It is also likely that partner has diamond wastage.
For me the 1♥ is also positive, Dutch Doubleton style, but I'll assume that doesn't apply here (though it did make it a little easier to open this hand, also knowing that in DD I can show this hand pattern and strength by the 2♦-level on the least favourable auction).

Putting my answers together in a list:
  • X, GF takeout
  • 3♥
  • 2♥ (minimum with 4 hearts)

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Posted 2026-November-08, 07:24

When you say GF takeout, does this imply that now 3♥ by 1NT opener is stronger than 4♥ would have been?
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Posted 2026-November-08, 07:42

No. 3♥ shows four cards, while 4♥ shows five. The double does not require 4-4 in the majors, and we don't want to play in a 4-3 fit usually.
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Posted 2026-November-08, 08:29

View PostDavidKok, on 2026-November-08, 05:28, said:


For me the 1♥ is also positive, Dutch Doubleton style, but I'll assume that doesn't apply here (though it did make it a little easier to open this hand, also knowing that in DD I can show this hand pattern and strength by the 2♦-level on the least favourable auction).



Please show this DD auction
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