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DCB query Stiff queens

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Posted Yesterday, 04:41



3 = 6-1-3-3
4 = 7 QPs (3/2/1)
4N = - yes, - 0/4+ QP (so 0 this time)
5 = - 0/4+ QP, so A-Q.
5 = ?

With DCB, we switch to positive cueing (PCB) with singletons.
Our agreement with stiff honours devalues K & Q:
A = 3 QP
K = 1 QP, then cue to show it
Q = 0 QP, then ignore?

So this is the question.

DO you ignore stiff queens completely? Or
Do ignore them when counting QP but still cue them as stiff A/K/Q?
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Posted Yesterday, 08:44

Not an approach I use, but I wouldn't ignore them completely. Valuing then depends on whether partner has bid the suit and you can identify value.
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Posted Yesterday, 11:16

We do not ignore stiff queens at all, so I suppose I cannot answer this question.
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Posted Today, 03:19

View Postawm, on 2026-February-17, 11:16, said:

We do not ignore stiff queens at all, so I suppose I cannot answer this question.


Thanks for that.
Sounds like you treat stiff A/K/Q at full value and show them.
It would take a lot of time to playtest all this.
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Posted Today, 11:23

What we've recently decided to do, which is quite opposed to some other players here, is to not only count singleton honours at full value in the RPs but to scan the singleton FIRST. We stop if holding a singleton A/K/Q and skip if holding no honour (reverse of what we usually do).
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Posted Today, 11:41

View Postawm, on 2026-February-18, 11:23, said:

What we've recently decided to do, which is quite opposed to some other players here, is to not only count singleton honours at full value in the RPs but to scan the singleton FIRST. We stop if holding a singleton A/K/Q and skip if holding no honour (reverse of what we usually do).


Wow, this seems really interesting. Can you please share the details with insights from specific hands if possible?
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