[Cyberyeti]

My first thought was "that's a hell of a 19 count" and K&R evaluates it at basically 20 so we would start with 2N and 7N would hit the table pretty early.

[ali quarg]

DavidKok, on 2022-November-16, 07:18, said:

Pete Matthew's article (website, look for "Opener Rebids 2NT (A)") discusses the advantages and disadvantages of several treatments when partner rebids 2NT. I found this article very clear and helpful. Note that there is a list of references at the end of the article, if you want more details on any of the treatments.
The downside of transfers (strong 4=4 majors) can in part be alleviated (in fact, it is not clear to me what the sequence 1m-1♥; 2NT-3♥* shows if not strong 4=4 majors - with 4=5 majors you can rebid 3♦* into 3♠) by responses on the first round - in particular, this happens to not be an issue for Dutch Doubleton.

Thanks for the reading material
Interesting to note that the Wolff sign-off is the recommendation.

[DavidKok]

Well, that depends a bit on how you read it. There is a section titled "Recommended: Wolff Signoff with 3♦ Raise", but if you look at the page before that you will see that the original Wolff structure is, other than 'Standard', arguably the worst option of them all. Also the transfers can handle more hand types, and in my opinion more important ones (I don't get why the "4=4 majors" is an issue with transfers - maybe some of the obvious auctions to show them are 'to play'?).
At any rate the recommendation is "Wolf Signoff with 3♦ Raise", which differs in important ways from the traditional Wolff signoff. It is a mistake to lump them together.

[LBengtsson]

jillybean, on 2022-November-16, 08:34, said:

OH MY LORD, I can only blame late nights & early mornings, no covid.
Perhaps we can just delete this thread , or rename it

How horribly embarrassing, but you know Bengsston, some birds in the Southern Hemisphere do migrate North.

Do not feel embarrassed, jillybean. We all welcome your contribution on these pages. And may it continue for many, many years. We all get swamped now and again. And make mistakes. And guess what? I never considered birds in the Southern Hemisphere migrate North. Jeez, it just proves that my brain cells fire a false start now and again also lol

[gszes]

given your system, I would start with 3c and after p bids the expected 3d, I should be able to now bid 4n keycard for diamonds. Once we establish all of the aces I should always be able to ask for the spade K so we will end up in 6n or 7n.