Playing 12-14 nt, 1nt now would show 15-17
Smallest lie
#1
Posted 2021-April-06, 05:21
Playing 12-14 nt, 1nt now would show 15-17
#2
Posted 2021-April-06, 05:39
You’ll also find H more easily with a NT rebid while you might bury them forever if you rebid those skinny diamonds. The imaginative 2C is closer to your cards than 2D, but is probably delaying the issue for next round if there is one.
Bidding 2H looks exaggerate to me with a slightly subminimal count but most of all because of those bad diamonds and the potential liability of the S singleton. Make my hand AQx AQxx KJ98x x and the bid is clearer. Especially at IMPs.
Anyway, I have a less promising hand so 1NT will probably be the best lie. And too bad if partner rebids 2S with 5. The funny thing is that it never happened to me to drive p into a 5-1 fit, the few times I opened or rebid NT w/ a singleton honor. Not that statistics can be drawn on that very limited experience, but the fear is probably overrated.
#4
Posted 2021-April-06, 05:47
If you didn't want to rebid 1NT after 1♠ then you should have opened 1♥ (planning to rebid 2♦)
#5
Posted 2021-April-06, 05:58
With my serious partner, where I open one club with most balanced hands, I play transfer rebids after opening one diamond, so two diamonds shows 5+ diamonds and 4+ hearts with less than reversing values. But with less serious partners I just hate rebidding one no trump with a singleton. Others seem far happier to do so.
#7
Posted 2021-April-06, 08:23
If I held Qxxxx xx xx Kxxx, I’d always bid 2S, because in my partnerships we do not rebid 1N with a stiff
In my partnerships, the smallest lie would be 2C. I do think that the 1N rebid has become increasingly popular in bridge today. 30 years ago, 2C would likely be the strong consensus amongst experts: nowadays a perhaps weaker consensus would be 1N
The same principles apply regardless of notrump ranges: the goal is to minimize playing in 6 card fits but also to get to the 7 or 8 card fits whenever responder is weak. One can usually work things out when responder has good values.
#8
Posted 2021-April-06, 09:07
I would flip a coin and bid the minor that comes up. There are arguments for opening this 1♥, but do we lie about the 5 card heart suit or the 6 card diamond suit?
There are hands that are awful for system. This is one for K/S in North America. Pick a lie and hope to survive.
#10
Posted 2021-April-06, 09:41
#11
Posted 2021-April-06, 10:23
Which 6 card fit do you want to play? Or is it also "rebidding 2♠ with 5-card suit - no!"
XYZ is a great convention, especially with sub-invitational hands. Unless you sabotage it.
Now, as MikeH says, you and your partner have obviously had a discussion about 1NT responses on singletons, and your willingness to rebid 1NT depends on that discussion. Of course, you're playing 1NT out of your hand opposite ♠KQTxx and out all the times you have xx, or playing 1NT with a nice 8-card spade fit opposite Jxx, because partner's afraid you have this hand again.
#12
Posted 2021-April-06, 11:37
#13
Posted 2021-April-06, 13:38
Partner can rebid spades with 5 but it certainly wouldn't be the worse contract I've been in.
This is perhaps where the auction should have ended but at my table South went on and bid 2N
#15
Posted 2021-April-07, 12:01
#16
Posted 2021-April-07, 12:13
paulg, on 2021-April-07, 12:01, said:
Opposite hemispheres, same hand! How did that work out?
#17
Posted 2021-April-07, 15:32
jillybean, on 2021-April-06, 13:38, said:
Partner can rebid spades with 5 but it certainly wouldn't be the worse contract I've been in.
This is perhaps where the auction should have ended but at my table South went on and bid 2N
Partner should rarely rebid a 5 card suit. Opener has either 6+ diamonds or a stiff/void spade (or both). Lesson number one with known misfits: pass! Do NOT try to improve the part score unless your hand suggests that your decision probably will actually do so.
Opener’s 2N is not unreasonable. One reason for responder to keep the auction, over 2D, alive is when responder holds about 8-10 hcp....2N by opener now shows about a 17 count. Make opener’s diamonds KJ10xx, for example, and I think 2N would be the near-unanimous decision of all good players.
While I think 2N is on the aggressive side, it’s far better than responder’s 2S if bid on a 5 card suit.
#18
Posted 2021-April-07, 15:58
mikeh, on 2021-April-07, 15:32, said:
Opener’s 2N is not unreasonable. One reason for responder to keep the auction, over 2D, alive is when responder holds about 8-10 hcp....2N by opener now shows about a 17 count. Make opener’s diamonds KJ10xx, for example, and I think 2N would be the near-unanimous decision of all good players.
While I think 2N is on the aggressive side, it’s far better than responder’s 2S if bid on a 5 card suit.
When I say partner could rebid spades with 5, I say that rather flippantly, I don't except 5.
I'm not clear on the difference between an immediate 1N rebid by opener, and 2♦ followed by 2N, could you please explain?
#19
Posted 2021-April-07, 16:50
mikeh, on 2021-April-07, 15:32, said:
I don't think you will find a single good player in Norway who would open 1♦ and rebid 2♦ over 1♠ with
J
AQxx
KJTxx
AQx.
30 years ago almost everyone (in Norway) would open 1♦ and reverse into 2♥. Today you'd see at lot of 1N openings.
#20
Posted 2021-April-08, 01:21
paulg, on 2021-April-07, 12:01, said:
It went well and badly.
I passed with a balanced ten count, as we play 14-16 one no trump. Everything was very friendly, including the obvious opening club lead, and she wrapped up ten tricks.
The bad news was that the auction went the same way in the other room, where they were playing a weak no trump so the rebid showed 15-17. This led to a quick three no trump and we lost a game swing. Game was beatable as five spades were available to the defence at any time, including when they got in with a diamond but a little too difficult for club pairs.