[timjand]

EBU Blue Book defines 3 levels for normal use: Level 2 (?novice), Level 4 (?Normal), Level 5 (?Advanced). If playing at an EBU club which has not specified a level, is there a level which is deemed to be in operation?

Came up because a hand was opened 1S in first seat which satisfies Rule of 18 but not Rule of 19.

Tim

[gordontd]

timjand, on 2017-August-11, 03:51, said:

EBU Blue Book defines 3 levels for normal use: Level 2 (?novice), Level 4 (?Normal), Level 5 (?Advanced). If playing at an EBU club which has not specified a level, is there a level which is deemed to be in operation?

Came up because a hand was opened 1S in first seat which satisfies Rule of 18 but not Rule of 19.

Tim

No, there is no default. It is for clubs to make their own decisions, either to follow one of the Levels, to vary one of them in some way, or to make their own regulations entirely. Unfortunately many clubs don't do this until they encounter a problem that highlights their lack of regulation. I think it's a good idea for clubs to adopt one of the Levels and say that the White Book regulations apply unless the club has a different regulation to cover the situation.

[The_Badger]

I thought that the Rule of 18 was only sanctioned by the World Bridge Federation, and the Rule of 19 applied throughout the EBU. Maybe I am out of date?

[timjand]

The_Badger, on 2017-August-11, 04:47, said:

I thought that the Rule of 18 was only sanctioned by the World Bridge Federation, and the Rule of 19 applied throughout the EBU. Maybe I am out of date?

Level 4:

7 A 3 Strength of Opening One-level Bids
A one-level opening bid in a suit, whether forcing or not, must by agreement show 8+ HCP and, in first and second position, follow the Rule of 18. Natural 1NT opening bids must show 9+ HCP.

Tim

[The_Badger]

timjand, on 2017-August-11, 04:50, said:

Level 4:

7 A 3 Strength of Opening One-level Bids
A one-level opening bid in a suit, whether forcing or not, must by agreement show 8+ HCP and, in first and second position, follow the Rule of 18. Natural 1NT opening bids must show 9+ HCP.

Tim

Thanks Tim. I think Charles Goren must be turning in his grave to think that the gentlefolk of this lovely country have now adopted the Rule of 18 in their bridge clubs. Whatever next?

[Vampyr]

timjand, on 2017-August-11, 04:50, said:

Level 4:

7 A 3 Strength of Opening One-level Bids
A one-level opening bid in a suit, whether forcing or not, must by agreement show 8+ HCP and, in first and second position, follow the Rule of 18. Natural 1NT opening bids must show 9+ HCP.

Tim

So mini Notrumo is not allowed? I am surprised.

In general, clubs will are pretty permissive if you ask in advance. Some clubs may require advance posting and perhaps a suggested defence if you are playing eg forcing pass or transfer openings.

[barmar]

Vampyr, on 2017-August-11, 05:50, said:

So mini Notrumo is not allowed? I am surprised.

"Natural 1NT opening bids must show 9+ HCP". Doesn't that include mini?

[Vampyr]

barmar, on 2017-August-11, 10:44, said:

"Natural 1NT opening bids must show 9+ HCP". Doesn't that include mini?

Yes, actually 10-12. But I believe there is a super-mini with 8-10 that some people play.

[blackshoe]

Vampyr, on 2017-August-12, 05:28, said:

Yes, actually 10-12. But I believe there is a super-mini with 8-10 that some people play.

Illegally, it would seem. Or have I mis-read something?