[Jinksy]

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IMP pairs. 1N is 12-14 and systemically mandatory on any 5422 (including both majors) 4441 in the range. You don't have a long-minor invite. The meaning of your conceivable bids from here:

2♣ = Stayman, after which 3m would be to play
2♠ = range-finder. P will bid 2N with min, 3♣ with a max (or 3♦/♥ with a max and 5Hs/Ss respectively)
2N = GF 5-card major ask. P will bid 3♣ without one
3♦ = nat GF
3N = to play

What's your call? What will you do next if there might be a next?

[nige1]

Jinksy says "IMP pairs. 1N is systemically mandatory on any 5422 (in both majors) 4441 in the range. You don't have a long-minor invite. The meaning of your conceivable bids from here:
What's your call? What will you do next if there might be a next?"

I rank
1. 3N = NAT. S/O. Minimal leakage.
2. 2N = ASK for 5M. Partner is more likely to have 5 ♥s than 5 ♠s.
3. 3♦ = NAT. GF. Consultative but lacking aces.
4. 2♠ = ASK for range. But why?
5. 2♣ = ASK for Ms to sign off in 3♦. Well worth considering, at Rubber Bridge with a 40 part-score, especially if honours count .

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[Tramticket]

Even if I have a long minor invite, I'm tempted to bid what I hope to make (3NT) and let opps guess what to lead.

[mr1303]

I learnt to make a game try on these hands. Bid game and try and make it.

[Phil]

3N looks pretty obvious.

[lycier]

Your CC can't include MSS, so it is difficult to describe this hand clearly.I would better start from 2♣ even if 3nt may be a good contract in fact.
Maybe there are great fits for a potential slam.

[MrAce]

lycier, on 2016-December-11, 02:16, said:

Your CC can't include MSS, so it is difficult to describe this hand clearly.I would better start from 2♣ even if 3nt may be a good contract in fact.
Maybe there are great fits for a potential slam.

1- I have no idea what you are up to but you would have hard time to cherry pick a hand for slam even if that was allowed by the rules of this game.

2- And...who you are describing this hand to is debatable. To pd or to opponents?

3- 2♣ allows your LHO to show clubs where RHO can have a club holding that he would never lead without the lead directing dbl.

[Cyberyeti]

I think I might bid 2N just in case partner has 5♠ then bid 3N if he hasn't. I pesumably have the option of wimping out in 3♦ if it goes 3♣-X but not sure if I'd take it.

[aguahombre]

Cyberyeti, on 2016-December-11, 04:52, said:

I think I might bid 2N just in case partner has 5♠ then bid 3N if he hasn't. I pesumably have the option of wimping out in 3♦ if it goes 3♣-X but not sure if I'd take it.

The guy who will be on lead will double?

[lycier]

delete

[Jinksy]

That's about a 19-point no trump. Rather more than can normally be asked from a 12-14 opening.

[MrAce]

lycier, on 2016-December-11, 05:26, said:

Well and good.
But see such hand.

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I think you missed that the NT was 12-14 in the OP. If you click on the yellow highlighted bid in the auction diagram of OP, you can see it.

[Cyberyeti]

aguahombre, on 2016-December-11, 05:21, said:

The guy who will be on lead will double?

He has no clue what the contract will be, he's on lead to 3N but it's not clear that's where it's ending up, example, this may be a way of bidding 3M/5 or 6 card other suit.

[ggwhiz]

Easy 3nt on the risk reward ratio since that's all I have to go on.

When it's wrong I expect no worse than -7 imps (-200 vs. whatever number of diamonds makes) against a +10 when it works.

[Kaitlyn S]

I see that lycier has deleted his post. However. it got quoted, and I have some advice for lycier.

Let's pretend for a minute that the auction was a strong notrump. The problem is that no decent player would open 1NT with the East hand. If I was forced to open notrump, I would prefer to open 2NT than 1NT. Indeed, the Kaplan-Rubens hand evaluator calls it 18.75.

Hand Evaluator

If your hand looks really, really good for the action you are taking, even though it fits the ACBL HCP guidelines, you might want to check and make sure it isn't way too good by a decent evaluation system, for if it is, the experts aren't going to buy that partner opened that hand 1NT. (At least their partners aren't going to, unless they are clients.)

[mr1303]

If diamonds run and they can't run 5 off the top, then 3NT has to be right if we're bidding a game. IFF partner has 5 spades AND no wastage then spades could be better, but 4S could well be off in top tricks before we get a chance to run the diamonds. So it's either a gamble on 3NT or a different gamble on 3D, and one pays a game bonus.