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Poll: Follow my sig? (30 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call?

  1. Pass (9 votes [30.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 30.00%

  2. 4S (20 votes [66.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  3. Other (1 votes [3.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

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#1 User is offline   Jinksy 

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Posted 2016-September-29, 13:43



IMPs. Think you can take my crown?
The "4 is a transfer to 4" award goes to Jinksy - PhilKing
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Posted 2016-September-29, 14:39

Pass.

We've got a fit. There's no way to know what's going on. Bidding 4 with a 9 loser hand without any ruffing values and K under the bidder is a pure crap shoot.
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Posted 2016-September-29, 18:28

My daddy taught me to bid 4 over 4 often but I suspect he'd join me in passing this flat hand.
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Posted 2016-September-29, 18:38

*Shrug* 4S.

I'd be the only one defending 4H if I passed this in an Australian tournament. I'm not sure enough to go against the field.
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Posted 2016-September-29, 18:50

Passing would not even occur to me, let alone actually doing it.
I think they deserve something like

AJxxxx
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AQxx
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Where

a-Both 4M makes
b-4h makes 4sp down 1
c-4S makes 4h down 1
d-They both go down 1
e-They may bid 5
f-They may fail to double when both don;t have anything in spades and only holding half of the deck in hcps.

Passing wins in extreme conditions such as

a-We go down -300 or -500 when they do not make game.
b-We can take only 6 tricks in 4 when they make game.

Are these possible? Yes. Are they likely?No

One should play this game to win. I would not want to be teammates with people who passes this which is a big alarm of submissive/surrendering style.
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Posted 2016-September-30, 04:15

For those who passed obviously expect their partners to bid 4S when its making. In view of the trump holding we have I suspect they won't. Although the K of club may be badly placed, I do not expect partner to have o/c a trash suit with 3 fast C losers. Defensively our hand sucks. Will they double 4S? Maybe they do but damage is not going to be massive.
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Posted 2016-September-30, 07:08

I rank
  • 4 = NAT. Might make. Your good trumps will inhibit a double.
  • Pass = NAT. Reasonable, considering your flat shape and badly placed clubs but partner might get the impression that you lack confidence in his declarer play.
  • Double = OPT. Offensive values. No surprises for opponents. Expect criticism unless successful.
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Posted 2016-October-01, 09:28

4. Give them the last guess.
Be the partner you want to play with.
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Posted 2016-October-01, 10:14

View PostSteveMoe, on 2016-October-01, 09:28, said:

4. Give them the last guess.


I think 4 gave you (us) the last guess. GL.

Applying the principle of - let yourself get pushed up one level
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Posted 2016-October-01, 11:26

View PostPhil, on 2016-October-01, 10:14, said:

I think 4 gave you (us) the last guess. GL.

Applying the principle of - let yourself get pushed up one level


No fear here. Yes, poor shape. However partner must have an opening hand (my are too good). They have to beat us by 3 to make my bid bad. That's not happening. Partner's values and my values are not well placed to defeat their game. Their guess.
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Posted 2016-October-04, 01:25

Larry Cohen said to usually bid 4 over 4, and while I hate 4333 hands, I have 4-card support and values in Spades, and while not likely, a possibly useful K. I'll take the dive and bid it.
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