My fault - or my partner's - or both?
#21
Posted 2016-June-28, 01:22
#23
Posted 2016-June-28, 06:04
661_Pete, on 2016-June-27, 10:14, said:
I take your point. And I thought quite a while, about whether I should say what I did say, knowing how easily information can be gleaned from the BBO site.
In this case, however, the behaviour of the person in question (as to ejecting me from the table, that is, not as to their play) was so far out-of-order, that I think the Mods would be sympathetic. If not, I'll accept whatever they rule.
To clarify how this thread derailed against the BBO Forum rules:
- It's fine to post hands from BBO and include whatever bridge comments partner/opps make if the purpose is to understand whether they were right or not, and how to avoid a misunderstanding next time
- It's not OK to post abusive behaviour related to a specific hand (partner called me a moron, told me to take lessons, booted me, etc). Bad behaviour should be reported to abuse@bridgebase.com
Your original post is perfectly fine, it's a bridge question. The follow-up where you explain that he booted you and you blacklisted him doesn't belong to the forums, it's an abuse issue.
#24
Posted 2016-June-28, 09:10
1d 1ht 1s 3c 3h 4hts. I can concieve of no other acol sequences which relate to the hands given.
#25
Posted 2016-June-28, 11:48
1S is not the proper bid in any non-canape system. Acol is not a canape system and opening 1D is clear since there are no rebid problems. If partner responds 1H, you can raise to 2H (or rebid 1S). If partner responds 1S, you have a very comfortable 2S raise. If partner responds 1NT (implying clubs), you can pass. If partner responds 2C, the rebid of 2D is fine.
1D-1H
1S-2C
2H-4H
or
1D-1H
2H-4H
are two reasonable auctions.
West's actual auction showed 5+ spades, 4+ diamonds and about 15+ HCP. That is far from what West holds.
The fact that you are writing suggests that West defended his bidding. If that is the case, it is time to get a new partner because West is clueless.
#26
Posted 2016-June-28, 11:49
zillahandp, on 2016-June-28, 09:10, said:
1d 1ht 1s 3c 3h 4hts. I can concieve of no other acol sequences which relate to the hands given.
Showing 4 spades and a stiff club? Not the best description of the east hand in my book.
#27
Posted 2016-June-29, 01:40
How many instances of poor bidding stem from a reluctance to be dummy? I freely admit that, on a few other occasions sitting opposite a partner whose card play I have doubts about, I've been guilty of trying to 'farm' the contract. Are others here up to confessing? Is the cardinal rule "THOU SHALT NOT FIGHT PARTNER" a given?
#28
Posted 2016-June-29, 03:14
Zelandakh, on 2016-June-27, 07:18, said:
I think you are over-reacting. The tone of the OP doesn't suggest that the purpose of his post was to ridicule. And I don't think many people would bother to look up who his partner was.
#29
Posted 2016-June-29, 04:39
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I think the main lesson that should be learned is that it is time for the exit. As far as I know canapee bidding is not Acol but partners whim. Second he belongs to the big BBO family who refuse to support partner (no 3 ♥. 'But I must bid my ♦ partner!' Well then start with them and you will not be in the mess you created yourself!
#30
Posted 2016-June-29, 06:29
661_Pete, on 2016-June-29, 01:40, said:
How many instances of poor bidding stem from a reluctance to be dummy? I freely admit that, on a few other occasions sitting opposite a partner whose card play I have doubts about, I've been guilty of trying to 'farm' the contract. Are others here up to confessing? Is the cardinal rule "THOU SHALT NOT FIGHT PARTNER" a given?
Intentional handhogging is poor practice. Bidding suboptimally incurs lost equity by itself, and also partner is likely to notice sooner or later and resent it.
Either find patience for your partner's errors or find another partner. Don't distort the game to accommodate his perceived weaknesses (unless perhaps playing for money). Also remember that you have weaknesses as well.
-gwnn
#32
Posted 2016-June-29, 11:19