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Has U.S. Democracy Been Trumped? Bernie Sanders wants to know who owns America?

#22721 User is online   Cyberyeti 

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Posted 2026-July-25, 04:58

View Postjohnu, on 2026-July-24, 17:15, said:

15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists were Saudi citizens groomed to be terrorists in Saudi Arabia. Jamal Khashoggi, a dissident journalist and Washington post contributor, was murdered by crown prince of Saudi Arabia. But yes, Saudi Arabia is currently a "friend" of the US because they are surrounded by powerful enemies surrounding them, and the US needs them to support their oil policies.


Has ever been thus, in the early 1980s the Saudis beheaded one of their princesses for adultery, and a program was made about it that offended the Saudis called Death of a princess. A satirical news program did a fake apology, I can't find the sketch, but they were described as something like a "Great country with an awful lot of oil".
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Posted 2026-July-25, 10:10

View PostCyberyeti, on 2026-July-25, 04:58, said:

Has ever been thus, in the early 1980s the Saudis beheaded one of their princesses for adultery, and a program was made about it that offended the Saudis called Death of a princess. A satirical news program did a fake apology, I can't find the sketch, but they were described as something like a "Great country with an awful lot of oil".

And a form of Islam, Wahhabi, that is far, far, far fundamental.
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Posted 2026-August-01, 15:54

View PostCyberyeti, on 2026-July-25, 04:58, said:

Has ever been thus, in the early 1980s the Saudis beheaded one of their princesses for adultery, and a program was made about it that offended the Saudis called Death of a princess. A satirical news program did a fake apology, I can't find the sketch, but they were described as something like a "Great country with an awful lot of oil".

From 0:42
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Posted 2026-August-01, 16:34

View PostZelandakh, on 2026-August-01, 15:54, said:



Thanks, I think it still sums up the fear many countries have of offending the Saudis
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Posted 2026-August-03, 13:10

View PostCyberyeti, on 2026-August-01, 16:34, said:

Thanks, I think it still sums up the fear many countries have of offending the Saudis

When it comes to (a thinly disguised) Saudi Arabia, there's always this evergreen classic. As it happens, the episode is loosely based on real events occurring on a trip to Pakistan in the late 70s. Presumably the writers felt the politics of dealing with Arab states would be considerably more fertile ground for humour.
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Posted 2026-August-23, 23:22

All's gone quiet here — and I don't think it should.
Prime Minister Mark Carney walked away from a U.S. trade deal Friday night, cementing his position as a leading voice of resistance to Donald Trump.
Whatever people think of the economic fallout, I'm proud to be Canadian today.
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Posted 2026-August-24, 10:42

If the rumours(*) of the "last minute demands" are anywhere near correct, it was unequal treaties time.

It is going to hurt. A lot. The alternative is worse (oh, and "9 out of 10 provincial premiers agree!" Guess where I live).

(*) There's an image going around that looks "official" but nowhere do they post a source - even of the list. But none of the things on it are specifically contradicted by, say, this article (and its links) from the Globe and Mail. Do I believe it" More than I do the equally unsourced denials from American negotiators.
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Posted 2026-August-24, 13:30

It's always heartening to see someone stand up to a bully. But it's disheartening when the bully represents one's country.
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Posted 2026-August-24, 15:24

View Postjillybean, on 2026-August-23, 23:22, said:

All's gone quiet here — and I don't think it should.
Prime Minister Mark Carney walked away from a U.S. trade deal Friday night, cementing his position as a leading voice of resistance to Donald Trump.
Whatever people think of the economic fallout, I'm proud to be Canadian today.


Kudos to Canada.
Although here in Europe and Middle East, we are starting to think about fallout, not just economic fallout.
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Posted Yesterday, 20:00

View Postjillybean, on 2026-August-23, 23:22, said:

All's gone quiet here — and I don't think it should.
Prime Minister Mark Carney walked away from a U.S. trade deal Friday night, cementing his position as a leading voice of resistance to Donald Trump.
Whatever people think of the economic fallout, I'm proud to be Canadian today.

You should be proud every day. Nicest people in the world from my experience, are my northern neighbors.
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