kenberg, on 2024-June-30, 12:38, said:
Then who? Of course I don't know. But just to pick a name maybe Gretchen Whitmer.
In my opinion, two other Dem candidates are better than Whitmer.
1.
Gavin Newsom: Setting his track record to one side (maybe Whitmer's is much better), the positive here is that Newsom projects arrogance and strength. When he is surely attacked by Trump (say at a debate), I predict that his demeanor will not even flicker.
He will ignore all insults and barbs while projecting himself as the big "Double Inverted Comma King" (don't google that, make an acronym of it). Voters will love & respect him for it.
2.
Michelle Obama: The one key trait of hers is that most people, even foreigners like me, think that she is a genuinely decent and likeable person. So when she is attacked by Trump, the average viewer will resent Trump for having attacked someone they instinctively like. Again, good for getting the undecideds into your camp.
The reason I think Whitmer is worse is that
A. She is not a brash, psychopathic one like Newsom i.e. she will eventually blink under relentless attack and when that happens, the viewers will think of her as weak.
B. She doesn't have the reputation of Michelle Obama i.e. nobody will subconsciously side with her when she is attacked.
In the end, the DNC and the Insiders decide on such matters. So everything I say could be wrong.
Maybe they will make Joe Biden run for a second term. If that happens, I am certain that every American on this thread who is Dem leaning will vote for Biden (even if the chap turns into jello at Debate 2). This is not an attack on you all; the opposite is also true for Republicans who post here. E.g. If Trump was in jail, or hospitalised, or rendered temporarily incapable of speech (say due to a stroke), the Republican crowd will vote for him regardless citing examples like Senator John Fetterman.
hrothgar, on 2024-June-30, 13:55, said:
3. A convention floor fight would be disastrous. Replacing Biden (and Harris) requires a whole lot of grace and maturity fro those two candidates
4. Personally, I'd like to see the democrats go with Whiter / Shapiro or Whitmer / Warnock
Presumably, a convention floor fight is impossible given the near 100% delegate win for Biden.
If Biden informs his delegates to vote for X, not Y or Z, at the convention, then all (or an overwhelming majority) of them will vote for X to be the nominee. He won the Primaries --- his word is law (figuratively speaking).
Agree on Warnock for VP, a smart choice. But then he probably won't be picked by M. Obama, and Newsom is too much of a "... King" to let the DNC foist a running mate onto him.
So I guess he'd be in contention only if Whitmer or someone else is candidate.
johnu, on 2024-July-01, 00:10, said:
Convicted Felon Trump is not just grossly unqualified, he is a danger to democracy and the republic. Convicted Felon Trump is a sociopath with dementia, who thinks he is above the law on his good days, and who thinks he is actually a god on his bad days. Is anybody potentially a worse president than Convicted Felon Trump? Hmmm, I'll have to get back to you about that.
Let's say the Democrats decide Whitmer is candidate
before Trump is sentenced. My (rather creative) view is that if the judge sentences Trump to prison, Whitmer (and Biden) should immediately declare in a public address to the nation that President Biden will commute the prison portion (not pardon). They can create a powerful message around "we will beat him at the Ballot in Nov... " etc, I think it is winning and it also prevents the MAGA side to paint Trump as the martyr...
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