[dickiegera]

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Do you open 1♥, 2♣ or 2NT?

If you open 1♥ partner will bid 2♦.

How do you proceed?

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[whereagles]

Opening is fine. Now 3♦, what else?

It would be nice to have 3♦ showing extras. (With less just rebid hearts and follow-up with a delayed diamond raise.)

[mikestar13]

Note quite good enough for 2♣, and too suit oriented for 2NT for my taste (others will disagree).

After 1♥-2♦ the best call is 3♦, establishing a potential trump suit and allowing partner to show a heart fit cheaply. I'm eventually bidding 6♦ unless:
1) we have a better fit in hearts or
2) partner has the magic ♥Q ♦A and a black King for an easy grand.

This hand shows off 2/1 vs SAYC--in the latter system, we bid 4♦ and pray partner takes it as forcing (he should: never play 4m in a constructive auction).

[whereagles]

One can make a pretty good case for

1M-2m
3m

being game forcing, even if 2m was not.

[ggwhiz]

3♦ assuming 2/1 and if 2♦ was not game forcing I'm bidding big black right now.

After 3♦ if pard bids 3♥ it's time for big black too but which is the keycard suit?

Since I'm the 4nt bidder I play that it's for the suit I raised in my regular partnership but without an agreement, cancel my 3♦ bid and put me down for 4nt instead.

Come to think of it if 3♦ gets 3nt from pard 4nt by me is arguably quantitative and if I do something else partner has no cue bids cause I'm staring at them all so a direct 4nt it is.

[helene_t]

Mikestar, the diamond raise is forcing in sayc as well. And in other modern systems like sef.

[blackshoe]

Seems to me the keycard suit is hearts, unless you play six ace BW.

[aguahombre]

2/1 is specified in the subtitle. Mildly interesting to concern ourselves with SEF, kitchen table 5-cM or whatever.

This is a rocking chair situation for 2/1. A simple 3D raise, whatever its perameters are. If Responder next shows heart support, we have "serious". Eventually, there are 6 keys and two queens in Wood if needed. If Responder rebids 3NT, we take over for slam. If Responder takes over, so what? We answer his questions.

[nige1]

 dickiegera, on 2014-November-05, 13:55, said:

Do you open 1♥, 2♣ or 2NT?

If you open 1♥ partner will bid 2♦. How do you proceed?

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IMO

• As opener ??: 1♥ = 10, 2N = 9, 2♣ = 8.
• After 1♥ - 2♦ - ??: 3♦ = 10. Other bids are dangerous e.g. 4♥ (KB by agreement) = 6.

[Cthulhu D]

Yeah, you just have to bid 3D and see what happens next. You've got a 9 card diamond fit that partner doesn't know about if you bid anything else.

I'll be very aggressive in forward going moves because I have 4 keys and the trump queen for our most likely slam (6D). Partner isn't going to be loving his prospects, but there are perfect minimums where the slam easily makes, so let's go.

[mike777]

3d over 2d

looking for the grand now.

[helene_t]

I don't think it matters so much with this hand whether 3♦ shows extras or not, since we are strong enough to move over 3NT regardless.

It's more when you hold 15-17 support points that it is nice to have it show extras.