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#1 User is offline   NickB50014 

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Posted 2014-August-29, 10:55

Partner opens 1 Opponent 2 (Michaels) I have:
AKQJ
QJ95
AK62
J

As this was on my phone I see my partner has
void
void
QJ10943
AQ108742

What is a forcing bid here? Do I pass and double? 4NT knowing we probably have a massive diamond fit as I know where 9 of each of the majors are?

Any opinions would be great.

Before I knew my partners hand, E/W vulnerable I passed W bid 2S passed around to me where I doubled and we set them 4 for a score of 1100 but, 7 or 6 is makeable (king of clubs is singleton offside) Play Went Q which I did not overtake, Ace , 2 (I duck around to west) 8 trumped by east, east then leads A-K and I take the last tricks, j drawing trump and A-K diamonds.
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Posted 2014-August-29, 13:19

Freak hands are always difficult.

I think I would start with a double and see how things go from there.

Note, with only EW vulnerable, +1100 beats 6 or 6 making. I would not worry too much about 7.
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Posted 2014-August-30, 04:24

The solution is simple: Make a forcing bid.
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Posted 2014-August-30, 04:59

double of conventional overcall typically means: partner don't move I want them to play doubled.

Partner's pass over 2 is insane, as it is to pass the double as well.
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Posted 2014-August-30, 09:37

View PostMinorKid, on 2014-August-30, 04:24, said:

The solution is simple: Make a forcing bid.



Thanks for answering my question with my question. I am asking what is the forcing bid here?!
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Posted 2014-August-30, 10:13

View PostNickB50014, on 2014-August-30, 09:37, said:

Thanks for answering my question with my question. I am asking what is the forcing bid here?!


After 2C! Michaels ( showing both majors ) you have 2 cuebids available : 2H! or 2S! .

Typically, 2H! , the lower cuebid, would show , and 2S! would show .

Eventho I would rather have at least a 5 card suit, I'd cue 2S! anyway with such a strong hand .
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Posted 2014-August-30, 10:16

Start with a double, then double 2, but partner should be bidding a lot of diamonds over 2 and you should reach at least 6.

1100 is a decent result anyway, although I think you should be able to get 1400 if you overtake the diamond and draw trumps.
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Posted 2014-August-31, 18:31

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2014-August-30, 10:13, said:

Typically, 2H! , the lower cuebid, would show , and 2S! would show .

There are 2 ways of playing this and it requires discussion. One way is to link higher to higher and lower to lower as suggested by Don (=, =); the other is for the higher cue to be the raise and the lower cue to be the unbid suit (=, =). I have played it both ways round with different partners. In addition, it is not uncommon for a 2M bid to be used to show a stopper in that suit, or more rarely to ask for a stopper. Without Unusual versus Unusual agreed this (showing values in the suit bid) is probably the default agreement.

In any case, just about everyone plays double to show general values so that is easily the safest way to start without any agreements. Sitting with 0067 was certainly brave - it could have gone worse than +1100.
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