What you bid (hand2)? 2/1 bidding
#1
Posted 2014-April-12, 21:28
Now is your bid with:
♠QT97
♥JT4
♦J9
♣K543
#2
Posted 2014-April-12, 22:34
#4
Posted 2014-April-13, 03:40
Under that, 1♠ is the bid.
#5
Posted 2014-April-16, 07:11
Bbradley62, on 2014-April-12, 22:34, said:
The third option is to play transfers, so X = 4+ hearts and 1♥ = 4+ spades. Whichever method is in use, the correct call is the one that shows 4 spades and not 4 hearts.
#6
Posted 2014-April-22, 06:42
but it gets played.
If 1H / 1S only promise 4+, you have a bid to show your hand, use it.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#7
Posted 2014-April-22, 12:44
P_Marlowe, on 2014-April-22, 06:42, said:
but it gets played.
If 1H / 1S only promise 4+, you have a bid to show your hand, use it.
With kind regards
Marlowe
While I think doubling on 4-3 hand like this would probably turn out ok, if your 4-2/4-1 you cant double so 1♥/1♠ can only promise 4 cards so you might as well have double as 4-4
#8
Posted 2014-April-23, 08:37
steve2005, on 2014-April-22, 12:44, said:
Why not? This is not dissimilar to a form of Montreal Relay.
#9
Posted 2014-April-23, 09:13
Zelandakh, on 2014-April-23, 08:42, said:
bidding goes 1♣-1♦-dble-3♦or4♦ now what happens if your 1♠-4♥ or 4♠-1♥?
#10
Posted 2014-April-23, 09:29
I find the idea that responder should negative double to be silly. As is often the case for such suggestions, the people who advance the idea seem never to really think about what happens next.
This entails considering LHO passing or raising the overcall to the 2 or even 3 level. Now partner bids some number of hearts. Please describe how comfortable you are at this point.
By contrast, if you bid 1♠, which in standard methods shows 4+, you are well-placed because, whatever happens next, you haven't misled your partner about your hand.
If you argue that your negative double systemically contains 4-3 hands, then you are going to be rolling the dice a great deal as opener, since presumably the double could still be 4-4. It isn't playable, imo, to deliberately create a situation in a contested auction in which opener has to guess as to whether a fit exists.
#11
Posted 2014-April-23, 10:07
steve2005, on 2014-April-22, 12:44, said:
Why not? This is not dissimilar to a form of Montreal Relay.
#12
Posted 2014-April-23, 20:27
steve2005, on 2014-April-23, 09:13, said:
You lose on this auction playing that double shows 4 of either major.
On the other hand, since your 1♠ bid shows 5, when the auction goes 1♣-1♦-1♠-3♦or4♦, opener is able to compete much more accurately.
I don't know whether you lose more than you gain, and it might depend both on form of scoring and on which situations your partnership needs more system support rather than having good intuitive judgement despite lack of information.