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#1 User is offline   lycier 

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Posted 2014-January-02, 04:55




How do you think of this bidding sequence? I think this hand is just a very good role model .
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Posted 2014-January-02, 05:22

Not sure whether you're being sarcastic.
I think your third bid should've been 2♠ and not 1NT, which would've told GIB you're either 4=4=1=4 or 4=4=2=3. The final contract is obvious and you also get there if GIB splinters after 1♥.
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Posted 2014-January-02, 05:28

View PostAntrax, on 2014-January-02, 05:22, said:

Not sure whether you're being sarcastic.
I think your third bid should've been 2♠ and not 1NT, which would've told GIB you're either 4=4=1=4 or 4=4=2=3. The final contract is obvious and you also get there if GIB splinters after 1♥.


Why do you say so? I think the GIB bidding style is excellent in my heart.
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Posted 2014-January-02, 06:30

There is quite a strong body of players who play that 4th suit at level of 1♠ is natural (4 card suit) and forcing, and reserve jump to 2♠ to show the classical artificial 4th suit forcing. Clearly GIB does not play it that way, but that is a style thing.
Certainly you lied to GIB with your 1NT bid, which systemically shows 2-3 Spades according to the explanation attached to the bid.
I think that to praise the auction may be an overbid if you stumble into the right contract by departing from GIB's system. That aside if it is your style it is certainly a reasonable route.
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Posted 2014-January-02, 07:55

no,I mean that the definition of 1♠ in this sequence of 1♣--1♦--1♥--1♠ which was ever discussed on bbf for several times because the definition of rebid 1♠ is controversial.
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Posted 2014-January-02, 11:33

Seems obvious to me that North's first rebid should be a splinter of 3S. Any 4SF bid just clouds the issue.
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Posted 2014-January-02, 13:37

View Postiandayre, on 2014-January-02, 11:33, said:

Seems obvious to me that North's first rebid should be a splinter of 3S. Any 4SF bid just clouds the issue.

+1, normally. Downside is that no matter how suitable the hand for a splinter, GIB’s judgement in followup continuations after a splinter is so dire as generally to render futile the exercise of splintering in the first place. Not so applicable of course as an objection when it is GIB splintering, and it is your human judgement on which the partnership is then reliant.
Some partnerships place a limit on values to splinter. If GIB does that then this North may be too strong.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

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Posted 2014-January-03, 05:22

View Postiandayre, on 2014-January-02, 11:33, said:

Seems obvious to me that North's first rebid should be a splinter of 3S. Any 4SF bid just clouds the issue.


The responder left room to explore the best spot according to the Useful Space Principle.
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Posted 2014-January-04, 00:11

View Postlycier, on 2014-January-03, 05:22, said:

The responder left room to explore the best spot according to the Useful Space Principle.

There is a balance to be struck between preservation of space and grasping opportunities to narrowly define your hand.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"

"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2014-January-04, 10:01

View Postlycier, on 2014-January-03, 05:22, said:

The responder left room to explore the best spot according to the Useful Space Principle.


Well, something must have gone wrong subsequently then, since the best contract was never reached.
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