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#21 User is offline   MrAce 

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Posted 2013-April-02, 19:34

View Postnige1, on 2013-April-02, 18:05, said:



  • After 1♥ (_P) 2♦ (4♠); _X (_P) ??: IMO 5♦ = 10, 5♥ = 9, _P = 7.



Bro...i know you have your own style of giving scores to bids that i may or not agree with, but.... I mean your pd opens 1♥, a major suit, you have AJxx support and you started 2♦, followed by LHO bidding 4♠, would you really hide that suit the second time and bid your 7 card suit, which by the way as decent suit as Kxxxxxx only ? Really ?

And you are giving it a 10 ? To me 5♦ should not even be in the poll, let alone having the top score. Can you explain me what i have been missing ?
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Posted 2013-April-02, 19:44

View PostPhil, on 2013-April-02, 16:57, said:

I was given this hand by someone I did not realize hangs out at 2+2.


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Posted 2013-April-03, 08:01

View PostMrAce, on 2013-April-02, 19:34, said:

Bro...i know you have your own style of giving scores to bids that i may or not agree with, but.... I mean your pd opens 1♥, a major suit, you have AJxx support and you started 2♦, followed by LHO bidding 4♠, would you really hide that suit the second time and bid your 7 card suit, which by the way as decent suit as Kxxxxxx only ? Really ? And you are giving it a 10 ? To me 5♦ should not even be in the poll, let alone having the top score. Can you explain me what i have been missing ?
Controversial I admit and I could easily be persuaded otherwise. My fuzzy logic FWIW, was ....
  • The game-forcing 2♦ reply was an overbid. (Mr Ace and some of my partners might choose it, hence the reluctant 8 marks).
  • If you continue with 5♥ over 4♠, opener may expect a better hand (what an Acol player would term a delayed game raise or better).
  • If you bid 5♦ over 4♠, you might argue No double no trouble.
  • 5♦ may be playable. It may even be safer than 5♥ e..g. opposite ♠ x x x x ♥ K Q x x x ♦ Q J ♣ A x
  • If opponents belong in a higher ♠ contract, they may be reluctant to bid on, unaware of our double fit.
  • If (as is more likely) 5♦ is doubled, you can correct to 5♥ without promising the earth.
  • Of course, passing 4♠X may be the lesser risk.
Wyman posed an interesting problem, and this may have brought Mr Ace back into the debate :)
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