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#1 User is offline   Bbradley62 

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Posted 2012-March-02, 21:21

This was the auction at 3 of the 10 tables; at the other 7 tables (including mine) South bid 2♠ directly over 2♣. The direct 2♠ is explained as including 4+S and 14-17 total points. This delayed 2♠ explanation includes 4+S and 12-20 total points. Shouldn't those two explanations fit together better?

And, how does North figure he has game-forcing values opposite 12-20 total points? (He also raised directly to game opposite what he thought was 14-17 total points.)
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Posted 2012-March-03, 00:09

View PostBbradley62, on 2012-March-02, 21:21, said:

This was the auction at 3 of the 10 tables; at the other 7 tables (including mine) South bid 2♠ directly over 2♣. The direct 2♠ is explained as including 4+S and 14-17 total points. This delayed 2♠ explanation includes 4+S and 12-20 total points. Shouldn't those two explanations fit together better?

And, how does North figure he has game-forcing values opposite 12-20 total points? (He also raised directly to game opposite what he thought was 14-17 total points.)


And GIB's response to the double is pathetic, it should definitely bid 2♠.
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Posted 2012-March-03, 07:15

We'll look at the followup but I think that this hand is on the cusp of 2S, and 1S is nearly as reasonable as 2S. Am I wrong? It is a little easier to jump here with a 5 card suit.

fwiw, this situation ( that auction, that 4441 shape with 8 HCP and a small singleton club) has come up about 79 times over the years in the main bridge club and tournaments.

Humans bid 1S 63 times , 2S 10 times, and something weird 6 times.
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Posted 2012-March-03, 08:30

View Postuday, on 2012-March-03, 07:15, said:

We'll look at the followup but I think that this hand is on the cusp of 2S, and 1S is nearly as reasonable as 2S. Am I wrong? It is a little easier to jump here with a 5 card suit.

fwiw, this situation ( that auction, that 4441 shape with 8 HCP and a small singleton club) has come up about 79 times over the years in the main bridge club and tournaments.

Humans bid 1S 63 times , 2S 10 times, and something weird 6 times.

For a human, 1S is fine but GIB handles badly followup rebids by doubler so if it bids its full values then there would actually be no followup problem to fix.
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