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3♠x= for EW while NS have 3NT=
EDIT: 3♦ is supposed to show a mixed raise (because we're V), RDbl is undiscussed, Dbl is also undiscussed but presumably takeout oriented.
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Posted 2011-December-05, 09:24
ATB please (imps, team game)
3♠x= for EW while NS have 3NT=
EDIT: 3♦ is supposed to show a mixed raise (because we're V), RDbl is undiscussed, Dbl is also undiscussed but presumably takeout oriented.
3♠x= for EW while NS have 3NT=
EDIT: 3♦ is supposed to show a mixed raise (because we're V), RDbl is undiscussed, Dbl is also undiscussed but presumably takeout oriented.
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Posted 2011-December-05, 09:29
Mainly I blame the player who misdefended.
Regarding the bidding, it's hard to apportion blame without knowing what NS's bids meant. How strong was 3♦ supposed to be, and what did South's double mean?
Regarding the bidding, it's hard to apportion blame without knowing what NS's bids meant. How strong was 3♦ supposed to be, and what did South's double mean?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-December-05, 10:09
Not easy to bid 3NT, but both players did a good job of self-inflicting damage. 3D seems wierd with that hand and dbl of 3S is a death wish.
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Posted 2011-December-05, 10:27
East and South should have the red and blue removed from their boxes.
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Posted 2011-December-05, 14:06
South is to blame, if over 3♦ X 3♠ shows stopper, then he should bid 3♥.
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Posted 2011-December-06, 05:19
gnasher, on 2011-December-05, 09:29, said:
Mainly I blame the player who misdefended.
If declarer gets it right by cashing 3 hearts early, I'm not sure you can beat this.
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Posted 2011-December-06, 07:10
Cyberyeti, on 2011-December-06, 05:19, said:
If declarer gets it right by cashing 3 hearts early, I'm not sure you can beat this.
That's true, although declarer has to be quite careful. If he plays four rounds of hearts immediately (or after winning one trump), North throws a club and later gets a club ruff. Hence declarer has to play clubs first.
If North had ♠7, would that be enough to beat it? They do say that you shouldn't double a partscore without good trump pips.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-December-06, 07:22
North has easy 3N bid over 3S...his partner redoubled 3D how on earth can he pass?
His other option is to rip it which is probably fine with AKxx, over which south would bid 3N since he has no D at all.
His other option is to rip it which is probably fine with AKxx, over which south would bid 3N since he has no D at all.
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Posted 2011-December-06, 07:52
The tough part of this ATB here is deciding wich is worse North pass over 3S (agree with Justin both 3Nt or X are fine) or south X of 3S (already showed your hand by XX so why X with no defense ?) When south X 3S north has a clearcut pass at this point.
I think the last X by south is the worse bid but i find north direct pass of 3S is really awful too.
Also if north duck a S (not a tough play) and south duck a club continuation (tougher play esp if declarer play low to K) its going to take DD to make the contract.
PS East X of 3D is not a thing of beauty
Ill need to know who blew the defense to allow blame
I think the last X by south is the worse bid but i find north direct pass of 3S is really awful too.
Also if north duck a S (not a tough play) and south duck a club continuation (tougher play esp if declarer play low to K) its going to take DD to make the contract.
PS East X of 3D is not a thing of beauty
Ill need to know who blew the defense to allow blame
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Posted 2011-December-06, 16:51
i went to reply and then read the rest of the thread and saw justin's post. Just look up a few posts...
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