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#1 User is offline   mtvesuvius 

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Posted 2011-June-26, 06:59

All of these hands are actual hands I played yesterday. How would you bid them playing a reasonably standard 2/1, and if you'd like, how would you bid them in your favorite system?


Dealer: South
Vul: Nobody
Opponents Pass Throughout

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Posted 2011-June-26, 08:35

1C - 2C (forcing)
2H - 4C (natural, not asking for keycards)
4H - 6C


I'd play for the drop, LHO would be more likely to find a bid holding Kx of clubs.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2011-June-26, 11:08

I don't really play 2/1 but I suppose
1C - 2C
2NT - 4H
4S - 6C
seems reasonable.

In my system
1NT - 3C
3D - 4H
4S - 6C
is probable.

I guess this makes me a basher - set trumps and whip out Old Black.
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Posted 2011-June-26, 11:32

1♣-3♥-3NT-4♦-4♥-4♠-5♣ perhaps. Not easy to pass with the North hand though.
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Posted 2011-June-26, 11:52

eeeek.. abstain. If I were North, it would greatly depend on what I had for dinner. All these come to mind: voidwood, splinter, inverted raise. I can't make up my mind.
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Posted 2011-June-26, 12:08

Mine would probably go someting like:
1♣-3♥(void)
3NT-4♣
5♣-Pass/6♣
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Posted 2011-June-26, 12:11


mtvesuvius asks...
All of these hands are actual hands I played yesterday. How would you bid them playing a reasonably standard 2/1, and if you'd like, how would you bid them in your favorite system?
Dealer: South. Vul: Nobody. Opponents Pass Throughout.
If you land in 6♣, the play begins ♦A and ♦J to your queen. When you lead a small club, LHO plays the 6. Do you finesse or drop?

IMO, on a very good day...
1♣ - 3♥ (exclusion, assuming that 2♥ = fit-jump and 3♥ = exclusion).
3♠ - 5♣
You should probably finesse because if LHO holds ♦A
- and no trump trick, he might still lead the side ace but
- if he holds Kx of trumps then he will almost always lead the side ace.

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Posted 2011-June-26, 17:20

simple approach


1♣-2♣
2NT-3♥ (shortness)
3NT-4♥ (void)
4NT-6♣
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Posted 2011-June-26, 17:39

1c=2d(gf in c, unbal very often, artif.)
2h=2s
3h=4d(rkc in c)
4S(1-4)=6C
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Posted 2011-June-26, 20:14

1♣ - 3♥ - 3N - 5♥ - 5N - 6♣.
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Posted 2011-June-27, 11:16

I've gotta say 1NT (10-12)-6♣ is tempting :P
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Posted 2011-June-27, 11:21

1C 2C
2D(minimum) 3H(void)
3N 4C(even number of KC)
5C(no cue bids available) now either pass or 6C.
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Posted 2011-June-27, 11:43

FWIW, I'd open 1♥ with the South hand
I don't expect this to be popular, but I think that treating AKQ9 as a five card suit is more likely to work out than opening 1♣ with 432

1♥ - 2♣
3♣ - 4♣
4♥ - 4♠
5♣ - 6♣
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Posted 2011-June-27, 12:02

View Posthrothgar, on 2011-June-27, 11:43, said:

FWIW, I'd open 1♥ with the South hand


I would too playing a semi-forcing 1N.
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Posted 2011-June-27, 21:31

I held the South hand, and opened 1♣... Our auction was a bit crude, but it did the trick:

1♣ - 5♥
5♠ - 6♣
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I still cannot come up with a worse possible hand to hold when partner bids exclusion :)
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Posted 2011-June-27, 21:42

View Postmtvesuvius, on 2011-June-27, 21:31, said:

I held the South hand, and opened 1♣... Our auction was a bit crude, but it did the trick:

1♣ - 5♥
5♠ - 6♣
AP

I still cannot come up with a worse possible hand to hold when partner bids exclusion :)


Did the contract make? Or did they take their Ace and have the Kx offsides?
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Posted 2011-June-27, 21:43

View PostBunnyGo, on 2011-June-27, 21:42, said:

Did the contract make? Or did they take their Ace and have the Kx offsides?

Forgot to mention that I guessed right for the first time in two and a half years -- I played the ♣A dropping the King. The hand was a push of course, but a moral victory for my guessing skills.
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Posted 2011-June-28, 04:08

1♣ - 2♣
2♦ - 4♥ (any min ; voidwood)
4NT - 6♣ (0/3 ; small gamble)

6♣ should be bid imo, we lack 2 keycards but we have 11 or 12 ♣s together. When we hold 12 it's rather obvious what to do, when we hold 11 we have to find ♣K. I guess the lead doesn't tell us anything, after a cueless auction to slam it's common practise to lead an Ace. Just take the percentage auction and try to drop the K.
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Posted 2011-June-28, 04:16

I'd have same auction as Free but 2♦ showing any balanced hand.
This gets somewhat more interesting sequence if 1♣ opening can be 2 cards, since now it's not as good idea to blast it, though I guess I still would due to lack of alternatives.
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Posted 2011-June-28, 04:42

View PostFlameous, on 2011-June-28, 04:16, said:

This gets somewhat more interesting sequence if 1♣ opening can be 2 cards, since now it's not as good idea to blast it, though I guess I still would due to lack of alternatives.

It is even more interesting since you can make a dummy Q ask and find out that South has 2-3 clubs. I considered this course in the weak NT auction and am still not sure if it is better than blasting 6. It possibly comes down to mentality as much as anything despite what the maths might say - do you prefer to bid the 50% (or slightly less) slams or not...
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