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#1 User is offline   mtvesuvius 

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Posted 2011-June-26, 07:04

All of these hands are actual hands I played yesterday. How would you bid them playing a reasonably standard 2/1, and if you'd like, how would you bid them in your favorite system?



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Posted 2011-June-26, 08:38

P-1♥-(2♦)
X-3♦
3♥-5♦
5N-6♦
6♠-7♥

I don't play 2/1, so can't comment on the 2/1 auction.

Playing 4 card majors, we'd bid as above. 5♦ is exclusion, 6♦ must be asking for the K♠ specifically, not interested in the K/Q♣ or A♦, as otherwise 6♣ would have been bid.
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Posted 2011-June-26, 08:48

p - 1H - (2D)
3D (shows 3-card support) - 5D
5NT (denies heart queen) - 6D
7H

I don't think that 6D asks for the spade king specifically, but south will be pretty sure that the spade king is what north is looking for.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2011-June-26, 12:40

This is similar to Han's auction (which is a model of efficiency).
P - 1♥ (2♦)
3♦ - 5♦ -- Support, Exclusion
5N - 6♦ -- 2 Aces, Kings?
6♠ - 7♣ -- ♠K, Natural.
At his final turn, North bids 7♣ rather than 7♥
  • to offer a choice of contracts and
  • In case RHO is void in ♣ and can Lightner double 7♥.

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Posted 2011-June-26, 12:59

Nobody else opening 2C on the 3-loser hand?

2C-(2D)-X-(p)
2H-3H
5D (exclusion) - 5NT (2 without Q)
6D (ask kings) - 6S
7H

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Posted 2011-June-26, 13:06

View Postahydra, on 2011-June-26, 12:59, said:

Nobody else opening 2C on the 3-loser hand?


What's your sequence when South's ♥K is changed to the ♦K? 2♣-2♦-2♥-3♦-4♣? Sounds fun...
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Posted 2011-June-26, 14:05

It's hard to stay neutral when you know the hands, but here it goes, in my pet system.

1NT (2♦) 2NT
3♣ 4♣
4♥ 4NT
5♦ 5NT
6♥ 7♣

1NT = 9-11
2NT = wierd GF hand
3♣ = 1st suit I can support
4NT = since pard has no diamond cue available, the hands fit and North can take charge
5NT = I'm thinking of grand.. anything else to spare?
6♥ = some stuff in hearts
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Posted 2011-June-26, 17:55

north has to splinter and south to accept for the auction to have any sense. Otherwise you are all just guessing.

pass-1♥-(2♦)
3♦-5♦ (no voidwood, just splinter, must be void at this level)
5♠-5NT (keycard)
6♥-7♥
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Posted 2011-June-26, 18:05

1c=p=1h=(2d)
x(3h)=5d(exclusion)
5nt(2 no q)=6c(kc grand try)
6s=7h
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Posted 2011-June-27, 04:14

You can tell I don't play much 2/1 as I am with ahydra in opening 2C. If we're assuming Vanilla agreements then presumably that means no Kickback and Serious 3NT?
P - 2C - (2D)
P - 2H
3H - 3S
3NT - 4C
4S - 5NT
7H perhaps. I don't think North needs to splinter after a 2C opening for South to consider slam a good prospect! @mgoetze: why would South bid the 4 card diamond suit over 2H, bypassing both 2NT and 3C?

It feels like cheating using a strong club given the OP conditions - surely the opps will compete higher than 1D on their 10 card fit - but here goes...

P - 1C = 15+ nat/bal or 18+ any
(1D) 1S = no major, GF
... - 1N = relay, usually 18+
2H = balanced
... - 2S = relay
3H = 3334
... - 3S = relay
4H = 4 controls without a club control
... - 4S = relay
5D = major suit controls, no diamond control
... - 7H
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Posted 2011-June-27, 11:11

1H (2D) 3D
3S(cue for ace, slam interest) 4S(cue for K, denies lower aces, even number of KC)
7H
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Posted 2011-June-27, 21:42

I like Han's auction a lot, and in any of my 15-17 NT partnerships it would hopefully be duplicated. However this hand came up while I was playing an aggressive 2/1 and 14-16NT... So I opened the South hand with 1♣. Partner bid 1♥, RHO bid 2♦, I made a Support double and partner was off to the races. We got to 7♥ without too much trouble, but I figured it was an interesting problem nonetheless.
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Posted 2011-June-28, 04:02

pass - 1♥ - (2♦)
3♦ - 5♦
5NT - ...?
This seems like the normal start. Now North has 2 possible calls to look for grand slam, 6♣ and 6♦ (and actually a 3rd: 6♥ - how can partner not be happy with 2 keycards from a passed hand??). 6♣ naturally asks for something in ♣ and I guess 6♦ should ask for something in ♠, but that's something I haven't agreed upon with partner...
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