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Wuss? Raise 1H-1S-2H

Poll: Wuss? (31 member(s) have cast votes)

1H=1S-2H-? A9872 J87 A6 1096.

  1. Pass (3 votes [9.68%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.68%

  2. 2S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 2NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 3H (25 votes [80.65%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 80.65%

  5. Other (3 votes [9.68%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.68%

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Posted 2011-March-21, 08:02


IMPs (Swiss Teams, 8 board matches, last match, table 1).
If it mattters: playing Acol, weak NT, 4 card majors, "majors first". Whatever, partner has shown a minimum opener with 6 hearts, and 10HCP would be enough to open 1H with a 6 card suit.

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Posted 2011-March-21, 08:15

Seems to me like a straight choice between Pass & 3♥, and I choose Pass. I can't imagine anyone choosing the other options.
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Posted 2011-March-21, 08:22

We have an offensive hand and a 9th trump. Definitely upgradable to an invite imo.
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Posted 2011-March-21, 08:25

If partner has a 6-card ♥ suit, I am definitely bidding 3♥.
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Posted 2011-March-21, 09:12

View Postgordontd, on 2011-March-21, 08:15, said:

Seems to me like a straight choice between Pass & 3♥, and I choose Pass. I can't imagine anyone choosing the other options.

My experience from people-based testing made me add some spurious options. :)
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Posted 2011-March-21, 09:46

easy 3♥.
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Posted 2011-March-21, 10:00

View PostRMB1, on 2011-March-21, 09:12, said:

My experience from people-based testing made me add some spurious options. :)

No 4♥ though. :rolleyes:
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Posted 2011-March-21, 10:18

View Postgordontd, on 2011-March-21, 10:00, said:

No 4♥ though. :rolleyes:



With Gordon the Gopher on this

I voted Other = 4 ♥ :P

PS also cos its Teams ;)
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Posted 2011-March-21, 10:25

As Gordon almost said, seems to me like a straight choice between 3♥ and 4♥, and I choose 4♥. I can't imagine anyone choosing the other options.
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Posted 2011-March-21, 10:28

View Postpaulg, on 2011-March-21, 10:25, said:

As Gordon almost said, seems to me like a straight choice between 3♥ and 4♥, and I choose 4♥. I can't imagine anyone choosing the other options.

My guess is that your partner is a sounder opener than mine are :P
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Posted 2011-March-21, 10:43

easy 3h under the conditions imo.

playing opposite a mirror i'd contemplate 4h - my style of weak 2s 2nd in at red is ultra conservative which obviously impacts upon this sequence.
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Posted 2011-March-21, 10:54

View Postpaulg, on 2011-March-21, 10:25, said:

As Gordon almost said, seems to me like a straight choice between 3♥ and 4♥, and I choose 4♥. I can't imagine anyone choosing the other options.

3♥ seems enough to me. None of my partners ever seems to pass an invitational 3M when Vul at teams, so this way we still get to 4♥ but I have an alibi when it goes off.... :)
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Posted 2011-March-21, 10:57

If I originally responded 1S with the intention of jumping to 3H on the next round --apparently so, since otherwise a simple raise of hearts the first time would be fine ---then I must bid 4H now that pard has six of them and not a wk 2 opener.
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Posted 2011-March-21, 11:07

View Postaguahombre, on 2011-March-21, 10:57, said:

If I originally responded 1S with the intention of jumping to 3H on the next round --apparently so, since otherwise a simple raise of hearts the first time would be fine ---then I must bid 4H now that pard has six of them and not a wk 2 opener.


you're playing acol. you didn't raise to 2H immediately because you prefer playing 9 card spade fits to 7 card heart fits.
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Posted 2011-March-21, 11:11

View Postgordontd, on 2011-March-21, 10:28, said:

My guess is that your partner is a sounder opener than mine are :P



lol you mean you dont trust your partner gordon tut tut :rolleyes:
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Posted 2011-March-21, 12:52

Pass is out of question for me, even in mps.

-3♥ mps.

-4♥ imps.
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Posted 2011-March-21, 13:11

I think 4♥ is too much. Partner is also aggressive so I'll be happy to stop in 3 if he passes my invite.
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Posted 2011-March-21, 14:21

Does this form of "Acol" include weak twos?
If so, this seems to be partly a matter of what a maximum weak two looks like, and a minimum 1-level opener. If we play Acol 2s, partner's minimum is probably slightly lower.

I think 4H is an overbid assuming that partner will accept on any excuse. 3H seems down the middle. I was going to say pass is possible, but it's quite easy to write down boring hands where game is cold, so I don't think I'll pass.
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Posted 2011-March-21, 14:25

4H seems normal to me. Passing is lol.
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Posted 2011-March-21, 14:31

3♥ is right on style in my regular partnership. Partner never passes this unless we are already too high.

4♥ is right in most of my casual partnerships.
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