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#1 User is offline   jschafer 

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Posted 2011-January-29, 16:52



The play goes:
T1: Q♣-3♣-K♣-9♣
T2: 7♦-2♦-K♦-3♦
T3: T♣-6♣-A♣-8♣
T4: 9♦-5♦-4♦-Q♦

Leaving:

Now what?
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Posted 2011-January-29, 17:59

I don't see what I could possibly do now except cross to a spade and draw trump. Lots of options after that. What happens?
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Posted 2011-January-29, 19:18

It seems to me that RHO is worried about the heart suit by giving away the diamond position as RHO made a shift from♦J97. If he wanted to break up an endplay against himself he would have won the ♣A at T1.

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Posted 2011-January-30, 07:40

If you cross to dummy with a ♠ and draw trumps, the ♦s turn out to be to be 4-2, RHO discarding 2 ♣s.
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Posted 2011-January-30, 08:05

Exit with a club, I guess, and hope to squeeze West in the majors.
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Posted 2011-January-30, 08:23

LHO seems to have defended rather badly.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-January-30, 12:54

I assume we are trying to make the contract, rather than thinking particularly hard about overtricks?
I don't understand why LHO was so desperate to chew up his second trump trick, but he's done it now.

Anyway, RHO appears to be either 2=3=2=6 or 3=2=2=6 unless he also has a 4-card major.

I can make against both of the major suit layouts by drawing trumps, cashing the two top spades, crossing in hearts and playing a spade. If RHO follows spades look to be 3-3 and I ruff it making 10 tricks. If RHO discards, I discard the last club. LHO wins but now I know that hearts are 3-3 so I duck the heart return and still have a trump left.
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Posted 2011-January-30, 13:28

View PostFrancesHinden, on 2011-January-30, 12:54, said:

I can make against both of the major suit layouts by drawing trumps, cashing the two top spades, crossing in hearts and playing a spade. If RHO follows spades look to be 3-3 and I ruff it making 10 tricks. If RHO discards, I discard the last club. LHO wins but now I know that hearts are 3-3 so I duck the heart return and still have a trump left.

Haven't you now lost five tricks? Two clubs, one diamond, one spade and one heart.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-January-30, 14:46

View Postgnasher, on 2011-January-30, 13:28, said:

Haven't you now lost five tricks? Two clubs, one diamond, one spade and one heart.


Now you are just being picky
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Posted 2011-January-30, 14:48

It seems that for the squeeze to work, lefty has to have (♠Qxxx ♥QJx) or (♠Qxx and four hearts). So it's a question of weighing the first one of those vs ♠xxx when we need to just ruff a spade.

Seems that spades 3-3 is much more likely than the squeeze (the major suit breaks are symmetric, and QJx is a small fraction). I think you should only play for the squeeze if righty is the type to never preempt with an outside card.

Now the question is whether we should pitch two hearts from dummy and get our overtrick, or save the heart and give up on 10 tricks for the extra chance of ♥QJ doubleton with righty.
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Posted 2011-February-07, 09:29

Cross to the hand, draw trumps, exit with a ♣. I'm going for a criss-cross squeeze. ♠Jxx ♥AK vs ♠AK ♥Txx. This also wins when ♠s were 3-3 and LHO has ♠Q.
The biggest difficulty is to choose which suit to play first... :) I guess LHO can fool us by discarding a ♠ from Qxx.
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Posted 2011-February-07, 10:20

View PostFree, on 2011-February-07, 09:29, said:

Cross to the hand, draw trumps, exit with a ♣. I'm going for a criss-cross squeeze. ♠Jxx ♥AK vs ♠AK ♥Txx. This also wins when ♠s were 3-3 and LHO has ♠Q.

The criss-cross gains over the simple squeeze when RHO has Qxx QJx xx AKxxx. Do you think that likely?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-February-07, 10:27

View PostFree, on 2011-February-07, 09:29, said:

Cross to the hand, draw trumps, exit with a ♣. I'm going for a criss-cross squeeze. ♠Jxx ♥AK vs ♠AK ♥Txx. This also wins when ♠s were 3-3 and LHO has ♠Q.
The biggest difficulty is to choose which suit to play first... :) I guess LHO can fool us by discarding a ♠ from Qxx.


There is no criss-cross when RHO returns a ♠.

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Posted 2011-February-07, 10:28

View PostFree, on 2011-February-07, 09:29, said:

Cross to the hand, draw trumps, exit with a ♣. I'm going for a criss-cross squeeze. ♠Jxx ♥AK vs ♠AK ♥Txx. This also wins when ♠s were 3-3 and LHO has ♠Q.
The biggest difficulty is to choose which suit to play first... :) I guess LHO can fool us by discarding a ♠ from Qxx.


There is no criss-cross when RHO returns a ♠.

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Posted 2011-February-08, 02:56

View Postrhm, on 2011-February-07, 10:28, said:

There is no criss-cross when RHO returns a ♠.

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