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Slam Try Are you worth one?

Poll: Slam Try (28 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you make slam try?

  1. No (5 votes [17.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.86%

  2. Yes (23 votes [82.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 82.14%

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#1 User is offline   Cascade 

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Posted 2011-January-10, 03:15


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Posted 2011-January-10, 04:26

Yes, as long as it's a slam try that shows a club suit. If all I'm allowed to do is show a control, I won't bother.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-January-10, 04:36

4♣. If for some reason pard happens to bid 4♥ now, we got a grand going. If he bids the expected 4♦... oh well, 4♠ then.
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Posted 2011-January-10, 05:34

Absolutely
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Posted 2011-January-10, 08:40

4♣ is clear. Unless you're a wuss, Wayne?
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Posted 2011-January-10, 09:15

I would bid 4♦ wich shows shortness for me, would rather have a long suit slam try this time though.

I don't find the slam try obvious BTW, as gnasher I'd bid 4M if my agreements were just cuebids.
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Posted 2011-January-10, 09:41

Haha @ Jilly accusing Wayne of being a wuss.

I'm the only wuss around here. Markdean is a bigger wuss, but he never posts.

Like Gnasher's 4♣ suggestion as a HSST, but I can't get my partners to play this :(

I still bid 4♣.
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Posted 2011-January-10, 09:53

4C playing standard.

For me 3S is about 15-16 and 3H is about 17-18, so it is closer. However, I do play that 4C shows a club suit (I can ask for shortness with 3NT), so I still would.
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Posted 2011-January-10, 13:03

View PostPhil, on 2011-January-10, 09:41, said:

Haha @ Jilly accusing Wayne of being a wuss.

I'm the only wuss around here. Markdean is a bigger wuss, but he never posts.

Like Gnasher's 4♣ suggestion as a HSST, but I can't get my partners to play this :(

I still bid 4♣.


Jilly is not the only one who accuses me of being a wuss. Aside from direct accusations some of my partner's start bidding on less and less.
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Posted 2011-January-10, 13:04

View PostJLOGIC, on 2011-January-10, 05:34, said:

Absolutely


What would you bid?

What are your preferred methods?
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Posted 2011-January-10, 13:29

If partner could have bid 3♥ non GF with heart shortage then they probably have club shortage or are 4252. So it's not that attractive but I might still do it. Since partner is limited I wouldn't expect them to go crazy if I do make a try unless they have an ideal hand such as Axxx Axx AKxxx x.
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Posted 2011-January-10, 14:35

I'd Gerber if I have that. Not very serious unless 4xA.
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Posted 2011-January-10, 18:36

I`d bid 4C whatever that is, icant bid 4D with a void so i try to find otherways wheter he has/ has not his strength in my void. If his next bid is 4D i`ll bid 4S.
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Posted 2011-January-10, 20:31

View Postdake50, on 2011-January-10, 14:35, said:

I'd Gerber if I have that. Not very serious unless 4xA.

LOL

Anyway, yes of course I bid 4♣.
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Posted 2011-January-10, 20:47

View PostCascade, on 2011-January-10, 13:04, said:

What would you bid?

What are your preferred methods?


I would bid 4C. I like to play 3N as a shortness ask, in which case I would love to bid that.
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Posted 2011-January-11, 04:30

View Posthan, on 2011-January-10, 09:53, said:

I do play that 4C shows a club suit (I can ask for shortness with 3NT)

That creates a bit of a dilemma. I'd like to ask for shortage, but only if partner actually has one - if he doesn't, I'd like to show my suit instead.
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Posted 2011-January-11, 14:20

Well, I play 3♥ by opener as showing heart shortage. So this sequence should be either a "bad" 18-19 balanced or club shortage. The lack of heart shortness does reduce our slam chances, but if partner has 18-19 balanced we could easily have play for slam (i.e. AJxx KQx KJxx Ax is a fine slam despite the diamond wastage). I'll try 4♣, which shouldn't excite partner too much if he has shortness there.
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Posted 2011-January-11, 21:26

I'm not going past 4S on my own, but will definitely give partner a chance to act interested. How I do that is going to depend on our cueing style. 3NT or 4C or 4D may be the right call depending on the agreements.
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Posted 2011-January-12, 16:56

I would have signed off (opposite ~15-17 and 4♣ being a cue) so I guess that makes me an underbidder and a wuss :( Oh well...
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