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Never put an eight-card suit down in dummy (English) Premier League I

#21 User is offline   rhm 

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Posted 2010-September-16, 11:42

To call pass with nine cards in a suit a no-brainer is a bit over the top.
Just wonder how many cards you need in a suit before you will bid opposite a simple overcall at favorable vulnerability, would 10 or 11 or 12 be right? Just guessing.

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Posted 2010-September-16, 11:55

rhm, on Sep 16 2010, 12:42 PM, said:

To call pass with nine cards in a suit a no-brainer is a bit over the top.
Just wonder how many cards you need in a suit before you will bid opposite a simple overcall at favorable vulnerability, would 10 or 11 or 12 be right? Just guessing.

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well any 12 card suit a priori is 55% to make slam at worst so that is acceptable :D
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Posted 2010-September-19, 23:58

This is what I came up with viewing only my cards, as I would have bid:
(See P as 8-11 hcp + 4 in hand) It would be nice to think there could be 12 spades split 4(weak/split)
-4-4 or 3-4-5 etc. and they dont bid, but how so with responder lacking even 3H (or does he lack 6/7 hcp by a bit, but opener stands just under a 2c opening?!) In either case they bid after 2d.
I am thinking to bid 4c discounting the extra card. I'm bidding def not to make. 4c may discourage major game reply if fit is their problem. If they do bid 4sp (or H) I figure them to Make so come back with 5cl.(or 5cl vs 4nt when it comes as interference and probably is the reply they need) I don't see them having slam, tho they will be welcome to try, & without BW. If they end up at 5sp/H for Game try, looks to me like one card matter to us or them. As good a defensive situation as available.
Sound reasonable? Or am I neglecting something? (I do not see my p elevating the bid, tho if he goes to 5cl ... which i dont think is makeable, and 5 d definately not, well I was prepared to go 5cl anyway ... but got to have a little fling with asking for a 4cl discount :unsure:
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