What is your opening bid? I've been away from the game for a while and I'm wondering what the modern style is.
Opening Bid
#1
Posted 2010-August-11, 10:06
What is your opening bid? I've been away from the game for a while and I'm wondering what the modern style is.
#2
Posted 2010-August-11, 10:09
And sealed the Law by vote,
It little matters what they thought -
We hang for what they wrote.
#3
Posted 2010-August-11, 10:20
Also ran
3S (if you play that opening 3 bids actually promise playing strength)
4S (actually fun bid but really with 6 cards..)
Have absolutely no merit and are abominable:
Pass
2S
George Carlin
#4
Posted 2010-August-11, 10:37
gwnn, on Aug 11 2010, 11:20 AM, said:
Also ran
3S (if you play that opening 3 bids actually promise playing strength)
4S (actually fun bid but really with 6 cards..)
Have absolutely no merit and are abominable:
Pass
2S
Largely agree with this.
2♠ has very little merit unless you play the 8-12 or 10-14 style, I'm not opening one that stops at 10.
#6
Posted 2010-August-11, 10:58
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
#7
Posted 2010-August-11, 12:32
pooltuna, on Aug 11 2010, 04:58 PM, said:
I understand your logic, but I beleive you are wrong, many people who play 2/1 will open this kind of hands at the 1 level.
#8
Posted 2010-August-11, 12:47
Assuming something like North America / Standard American,
a 1S opening is the most likely bid, that will ocurr, but you may
also see Pass or 3S.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#9
Posted 2010-August-11, 12:55
#10
Posted 2010-August-11, 13:04
2s accurate suit point count but this hand would be a decent 2s bid r/w has little merit w/r because it is way too good.
1s some find this close to opening bid but I feel it gives poor (anti acid addicted) partner a totally wrong idea of our potential defense in any competitive or slam
oriented auction. I mean would you really want the excuse but P i told you I had
the worst hand I could in context:))))
3S has some solid merit in setting suit preemting a significant amount and warning p about a serious lack of defense. AT MP I think this would merit consideration as
top spot but sigh this is IMPS and here it strikes me as trying to stop on a dime
(3s vs 4s) at the slight risk that the preemtion was not sufficient. 3s will win mostly
tiny amount of imps (vs a 4s opener) but lose big when we miss game or opps bid a game they would never arrive at over 4s.
my favorite 4s
Trump suit decent enough to play opposite even 1. Huge amount of preemption
and warns p about our defensive liability if opps do bid. Severly limits our power
just like 3s but who knows maybe p will hit with a nice club fit and 4s will make
when it can never be bid if we open 3s
This is how I like to use my license to steal by giving p a pretty fair evaluation of
my hand in a playable spot with some (virtually impossible to evaluate) upside potential.
#12
Posted 2010-August-11, 13:16
I play 6-10 points so this is 2S.
If I played n-m where m is less than ten, then 1S rather than 3S.
#13
Posted 2010-August-11, 13:42
Pict, on Aug 12 2010, 08:16 AM, said:
I play 6-10 points so this is much too good for 2♠
#15
Posted 2010-August-11, 15:34
nigel_k, on Aug 11 2010, 02:42 PM, said:
Pict, on Aug 12 2010, 08:16 AM, said:
I play 6-10 points so this is much too good for 2♠
Nigel
What does a suitable ten count look like?
#16
Posted 2010-August-11, 16:00
#17
Posted 2010-August-11, 16:18
Pict, on Aug 12 2010, 10:34 AM, said:
nigel_k, on Aug 11 2010, 02:42 PM, said:
Pict, on Aug 12 2010, 08:16 AM, said:
I play 6-10 points so this is much too good for 2♠
Nigel
What does a suitable ten count look like?
2♠ would be fine if it was:
AQJxxx
xx
Qx
Jxx
Having a 6-4 shape and good intermediates in both long suits means it just has too much trick taking potential for a weak two bid. If it's 10 it should be an ordinary looking 10 at most.
#18
Posted 2010-August-11, 16:24
Pict, on Aug 11 2010, 04:34 PM, said:
nigel_k, on Aug 11 2010, 02:42 PM, said:
Pict, on Aug 12 2010, 08:16 AM, said:
I play 6-10 points so this is much too good for 2♠
Nigel
What does a suitable ten count look like?
6322 almost certainly, a 6421 10 count is too good without a stiff honour.
#19
Posted 2010-August-11, 17:40
I'm sure that 1♠ is a popular choice here, but I like to have some values for my one-level openings. It doesn't make much sense to me that there are hands I'd open 1♠ with at NV (where we want to bid games less aggressively) but would not open 1♠ at V (where we want to push for games).
So this looks like a 3♠ opening to me. I'd make the same opening bid without the ♦Q (which I don't think really adds anything to the hand).
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
#20
Posted 2010-August-11, 17:53
But all that said, I don't think you will usually come to much harm with any of those choices. Pass and 4♠ seem really insane.

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