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Will righty cruise sweet home ?

Poll: Double or not ? (22 member(s) have cast votes)

Double or not ?

  1. Ayes (16 votes [72.73%])

    Percentage of vote: 72.73%

  2. Nays (6 votes [27.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.27%

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#1 User is offline   H_KARLUK 

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Posted 2009-June-01, 22:19

Sys : SAYC

1S P 2C P
2H P 2S P
4S ?

Scoring: MP

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Posted 2009-June-01, 23:10

I think this is a clear double. Make sure partner doesn't lead before you do.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-June-01, 23:15

Yes, stand on the table to double this one. On a really bad day they might make, but usually they have nowwhere to go and 4♠ has to go 2 or 3 down.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2009-June-02, 06:22

I'm a conservative doubler, but this is easy for me.
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Posted 2009-June-02, 06:31

I will Double, unfortunately it makes:


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Posted 2009-June-02, 07:42

I smash this to pieces, oh well if it makes.
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Posted 2009-June-02, 09:56

Can't answer the question, I don't know what sys, ayes, or nays means.
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Posted 2009-June-02, 12:27

Unbeatable on any lead. Big boy ruffs th 2nd ♦ and may even draw a round of trumps. He'll then play on ♣ and game over.

Scoring: MP


Sorry folks. It's another story if they panic and land on 5♣.
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Posted 2009-June-02, 13:44

1. The South 2♥ call is a severe underbid. What more does South need to make a forcing jump bid?
2. I believe the 2♠ is similarly an underbid, though some may disagree.
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Posted 2009-June-02, 13:48

The system was not specified but obviously NS bid very poorly no matter what system they were playing. No matter, 4SX might make sometimes. We had a good penalty double but sometimes it doesn't work out.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-June-02, 13:53

se12sam, on Jun 2 2009, 09:44 PM, said:

1. The South 2♥ call is a severe underbid. What more does South need to make a forcing jump bid?
2. I believe the 2♠ is similarly an underbid, though some may disagree.

2♥ is forcing.

2♠ is non forcing so it is a severe underbid.
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Posted 2009-June-02, 14:15

se12sam, on Jun 2 2009, 09:44 PM, said:

1. The South 2♥ call is a severe underbid. What more does South need to make a forcing jump bid?

Another heart.
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Posted 2009-June-02, 14:22

skaeran, on Jun 2 2009, 03:15 PM, said:

se12sam, on Jun 2 2009, 09:44 PM, said:

1. The South 2♥ call is a severe underbid. What more does South need to make a forcing jump bid?

Another heart.

No, 3 fewer hearts and another club. :D
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Posted 2009-June-03, 04:12

Actually the top line of the OP says "Sys : SAYC" and does not say "Sys : 2/1".

I completely agree that if playing 2/1, the 2♣ launches you into a GF auction and there is no need to jump in hearts etc. but if I were playing SAYC, the 2♥ rebid does not show the quality of the hand (17 HCP, useful feature in partner's suit, useful shortness etc)
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Posted 2009-June-03, 12:52

More to the point, I think East was pretty cowardly for not finding a bid with his hand after hearing a 2/1. A diamond jump might help West's judgment (though I'd probably still double at MP).
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Posted 2009-June-03, 12:56

I have to admit I'd have doubled this. You have a very unpleasant surprise for declarer and an easy 2 down would seem to be common.
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Posted 2009-June-03, 13:13

jdonn, on Jun 2 2009, 10:22 PM, said:

skaeran, on Jun 2 2009, 03:15 PM, said:

se12sam, on Jun 2 2009, 09:44 PM, said:

1. The South 2♥ call is a severe underbid. What more does South need to make a forcing jump bid?

Another heart.

No, 3 fewer hearts and another club. :D

Yeah, yeah, but assuming 3♥ was natural... :D
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