[mtvesuvius]

All Vulnerable at MPs you hold:

Q752
QJ643
97
AQ

Partner deals and opens a 13-15 1NT:

1NT - (P) - 2♣ - (X)
P - (P) - ?

What are your agreements here, what is partner's pass? (At the time we had it as no ♣ stop and denied a 4cM)
What do you evaluate this hand as now, GF or Invitational?
What's your bid?

I assume everyone agrees with 2♣... Correct?

[kfay]

Justin had a post about this in his blog that I liked.

Justin Lall said:

1N-(2)-X-

P- No stopper. Then responder XXs as restayman, and opener responds with the major he doesn’t have (remember who the rightside is!). If opener has no major he responds 2 as usual. If responder does not redouble he’s showing a garbage stayman hand type.

XX- Business, at least 4 very good clubs.

Other bids- Normal Stayman responses and promise a club stop.

[JLOL]

Agree with kfay.

[mtvesuvius]

JLOL, on May 15 2009, 04:55 PM, said:

Agree with kfay.

LOL

[skjaeran]

mtvesuvius, on May 15 2009, 09:54 PM, said:

I assume everyone agrees with 2♣... Correct?

No, I'd transfer to 2♥ and rebid 2♠, showing 4-5 and exactly an invite. Unless partner super accepts the transfer, which gets us to 4♥.

[fromageGB]

skaeran, on May 16 2009, 08:43 AM, said:

mtvesuvius, on May 15 2009, 09:54 PM, said:

I assume everyone agrees with 2♣... Correct?

No, I'd transfer to 2♥ and rebid 2♠, showing 4-5 and exactly an invite. Unless partner super accepts the transfer, which gets us to 4♥.

Precisely

[ghow]

Is there an upside or downside to playing pass shows a stopper rather than denies as per?
QUOTE (Justin Lall)
1N-(2)-X-

P- No stopper. Then responder XXs as restayman, and opener responds with the major he doesn’t have (remember who the rightside is!). If opener has no major he responds 2 as usual. If responder does not redouble he’s showing a garbage stayman hand type.

XX- Business, at least 4 very good clubs.

Other bids- Normal Stayman responses and promise a club stop.

[the hog]

What is the X of 2C? Most players i know play the X as showing a penalty X of NTs agains a NT opening of this strength. (Treating a 13-15 NT as weak). Against a strong NT it should have a different meaning.

[whereagles]

I'll just bid 2♥ now, assuming that's natural with some 5-4. It's an underbid, but if pard can't raise this, I don't think 4 makes.