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Posted 2009-April-09, 22:23

XIMPs, 1rst seat, favorable

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I opened 1♥. Agree?

It went

1♥-2♠-P-P; ?

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Posted 2009-April-09, 23:15

8-5 is still 1-suited I think. I might try 6♥ and since partner would yell at me for opening 2♣ on a 2 loser hand.

Over 2♠, 3♣ sounds forcing, and I'll follow up with 5N over partner's likely 3N.
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Posted 2009-April-09, 23:31

Rob F, on Apr 10 2009, 12:15 AM, said:

Over 2♠, 3♣ sounds forcing,

Not to me, you would get to play 3♣ most of the time opposite me.
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Posted 2009-April-10, 01:54

Rob, why would 3C be forcing?

As a general rule when one hand has shown nothing you can't make forcing bids unless they are cuebids or some jumps.
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Posted 2009-April-10, 03:42

Agree with 1H.
3!S now.
Over 3NT I bid 4C, this must be forcing.
Over 4C I think I'll just bid 6C, I doubt any RKC or cuebidding can tell me if partner holds specifically H ace.
Over 4D I take the negative route of 4H.
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Posted 2009-April-10, 07:36

I like 1♥ also, but 2♣ may be better if you have good methods over 2♣. 3♠ first... I am planning on bidding 6♥ eventually, but it cannot hurt to see if I can find out more, so I will probably bid 4♠ next. I will bid 4♣ over 3NT and 6♣ over 4♣ though... Actually, this is a hand where in my system, I would open 4NT as a specific ace ask. Now if partner doesn't bid 5♥ showing the A♥, I will bid 6♥. Unfortunately this loses the club fit potentially, and we may get too high, but I think if we're willing to force to slam after partner has shown nothing, then 4NT is acceptable.
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Posted 2009-April-10, 09:02

JLOL, on Apr 10 2009, 02:54 AM, said:

Rob, why would 3C be forcing?

As a general rule when one hand has shown nothing you can't make forcing bids unless they are cuebids or some jumps.

Gag, not this one again.

Obviously 3♣ is NF.

I'm also sure many would take 4♣ as NF too !?
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Posted 2009-April-10, 09:48

Rob F, on Apr 10 2009, 12:15 AM, said:

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Over 2♠, 3♣ sounds forcing
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Posted 2009-April-13, 07:22

1♥ + 6♣ seems to do the hand justice.
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Posted 2009-April-13, 12:01

I'd expect a 6-6 for a 6♣ rebid

I would go for sure with 3♠ now, lets give partner a chance to bid clubs himself.

I'd like to bid 1♥+3♠+4♣+5♥ as the better explanation possible.
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