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#1 User is offline   se12sam 

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Posted 2009-April-05, 06:24

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You hold this good hand in the 4th seat. The bidding goes:
Pass - pass - 3♠ - dbl
pass - 3NT - pass - ???

Would you bid on? If yes, what?

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Posted 2009-April-05, 07:07

I would just pass.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2009-April-05, 07:45

Bid, yes. 4NT.
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Posted 2009-April-05, 08:58

:blink: Just like all my partners. Making an ambiguous tell=nothing bid except maybe a spade stop and tenuous at that!
How can I bid on??
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Posted 2009-April-05, 09:00

huh? if pard thinks he can't make 3NT opposite a normal 13 hcp take out double, he won't bid 3NT but 4m.
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Posted 2009-April-05, 09:19

Pass. Where are we going, partner is a passed hand!
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Posted 2009-April-05, 09:56

whereagles, on Apr 5 2009, 10:00 AM, said:

huh? if pard thinks he can't make 3NT opposite a normal 13 hcp take out double, he won't bid 3NT but 4m.

You think partner's 3NT bid shows an opening hand?
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Posted 2009-April-05, 13:16

orlam, on Apr 5 2009, 03:56 PM, said:

whereagles, on Apr 5 2009, 10:00 AM, said:

huh? if pard thinks he can't make 3NT opposite a normal 13 hcp take out double, he won't bid 3NT but 4m.

You think partner's 3NT bid shows an opening hand?

I think it shows an opening, or close. In this case, I expect 10-11 hcp.
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Posted 2009-April-05, 13:57

obv pass
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Posted 2009-April-05, 14:07

Partner usually has 6-10 points and is trusting our double showing 16+ hand.

Easy pass :P
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Posted 2009-April-06, 03:31

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This was the full hand. Perhaps I was wrong to assume South hand definitely deserved a raise to 4NT; the consensus opinion is to pass. I think 6NT will make in real life -- the hand records showed only 11 tricks double dummy; but that requires a club(!) opening lead from East + further good plays by East (ducking the first spade, winning the second and leading a second club)

I thought at least one N/S pair will reach 6NT. But the traveller showed 0/18 in 6NT, 7/18 in 4♥, 9/18 in 3NT or 4NT and only 2/18 defending 3♠ dbl. Those who defended made the most cross-IMPs

ATB anyone?
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Posted 2009-April-06, 03:49

What's ATB?
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Posted 2009-April-06, 04:04

whereagles, on Apr 6 2009, 10:49 AM, said:

What's ATB?

Sorry, I thought this was the abbreviation commonly used here for "Assign the blame" --- next time I will type in full.
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Posted 2009-April-06, 04:05

oh. ok.
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Posted 2009-April-06, 05:30

What blame? East's preempt doesn't deny a three-card minor.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-April-06, 08:24

There is no ATB here. It's just a perfectly fitting hand. Sometimes you'll miss a slam here and there, so be it. North has an easy 3NT bid and South has a wtp pass.
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