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Another interesting overcall situation
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Posted 2009-April-03, 11:07
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Posted 2009-April-03, 11:15
Pass. 1♠ is forcing. Depending on the trouble they get themselves into, I'll decide what to do next round...
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Posted 2009-April-03, 11:20
Pass is not an option.
Stuck on the phone and could not elaborate. Now back...
You can't pass here. The auctiuon could easily die at 1♠ if Opener made a psychic opening, or partner may be forced into a ridiculous "what to do" with a 0-count. That's no good.
If you did not have a 19-count with a rock offensively, you'd overcall 2♠. Why would you pass simply because your hand is too good to be expected? That's weird.
Just double like a sane person and bid spades later at whatever level makes contextual sense based on what happens next.
Stuck on the phone and could not elaborate. Now back...
You can't pass here. The auctiuon could easily die at 1♠ if Opener made a psychic opening, or partner may be forced into a ridiculous "what to do" with a 0-count. That's no good.
If you did not have a 19-count with a rock offensively, you'd overcall 2♠. Why would you pass simply because your hand is too good to be expected? That's weird.
Just double like a sane person and bid spades later at whatever level makes contextual sense based on what happens next.
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Posted 2009-April-03, 11:34
4♠, no reason to let them find their minor suit fit.
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Posted 2009-April-03, 12:06
These guys are jokers. Let's serve them right: 4♠ 
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Posted 2009-April-03, 12:21
4♠
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Posted 2009-April-03, 13:17
No reason to think anybody is joking but I do want to play 4S.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-April-03, 13:55
hanp, on Apr 3 2009, 02:17 PM, said:
No reason to think anybody is joking but I do want to play 4S.
I do too, but I'm not sure when the appropriate time to bid it is... Maybe it's immeadiately, but maybe it's delayed? Like I said in the other thread, I play 1♥ - 4♥ as natural, but I think the thoery is changed here... Thoughts?
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Posted 2009-April-03, 14:29
I think that here there is more point in 4♠ being natural. Assuming 5 card major openings, you generally don't want to play in a suit that is 5-0 but 4-1 makes sense on a lot more hands. This is of course assuming no psyches...
I chose to pass and wait for developments and it continued
1♥ - P - 1♠ - P
2♣ - P - P -
I bid 4♠ now, but what would 3♣ mean? Does it ask for a stopper expecting something like this?
Partner had ♣A and nothing else. With little help from defence 4♠ made but 3NT would have been a better contract.
Oh and everybody had their bid...
I chose to pass and wait for developments and it continued
1♥ - P - 1♠ - P
2♣ - P - P -
I bid 4♠ now, but what would 3♣ mean? Does it ask for a stopper expecting something like this?
Partner had ♣A and nothing else. With little help from defence 4♠ made but 3NT would have been a better contract.
Oh and everybody had their bid...
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Posted 2009-April-03, 15:09
mtvesuvius, on Apr 3 2009, 02:55 PM, said:
hanp, on Apr 3 2009, 02:17 PM, said:
No reason to think anybody is joking but I do want to play 4S.
I do too, but I'm not sure when the appropriate time to bid it is... Maybe it's immeadiately, but maybe it's delayed? Like I said in the other thread, I play 1♥ - 4♥ as natural, but I think the thoery is changed here... Thoughts?
Yeah, this one is obviously natural. I would bid this without discussion.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-April-05, 09:19
4 spades.
if partner pulls it, I'll get a new partner.
if partner pulls it, I'll get a new partner.
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Posted 2009-April-05, 11:04
Bid spades now. If I Dbl and then bid spades, the auction gets complicated for no reason and it will be impossible to convey this hand to partner later.
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