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Partner opens 3D!!!!
You hold
Ax
Ax
AKQTx
AQJx
Your bid?
Hand from the South West Pacific Teams in progress at the moment.
Is this for real?
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Posted 2009-January-21, 23:53
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Posted 2009-January-22, 00:02
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Posted 2009-January-22, 00:15
So Partner Psyched or else bid with bad suit and a couple of outside kings what's the venerability? Bid 7 if it was all non-vul and 6 non-vul against vul
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Posted 2009-January-22, 00:39
rogerclee, on Jan 22 2009, 01:02 AM, said:
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Well it probably makes 4N to be fair.
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Posted 2009-January-22, 00:47
The_Hog, on Jan 22 2009, 07:53 AM, said:
Partner opens 3D!!!!
You hold
Ax
Ax
AKQTxx
AQJx
Your bid?
Hand from the South West Pacific Teams in progress at the moment.
You hold
Ax
Ax
AKQTxx
AQJx
Your bid?
Hand from the South West Pacific Teams in progress at the moment.
14 cards?
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Posted 2009-January-22, 01:32
H_KARLUK, on Jan 22 2009, 01:47 AM, said:
14 cards?
partner counted 12 cards in his hand and has a diamond void. obvious psych.
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Posted 2009-January-22, 01:39
No it's not for real.
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Posted 2009-January-22, 02:22
i hope partner has xx kx j-7th t9, then it is a rare 5-or-8 hand!
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Posted 2009-January-22, 04:26
Sorry hand corrected to AKQTx of Ds, and yes it is for real. Happened yesterday. All non vul.
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Posted 2009-January-22, 04:52
If you played with my regular partner, you wouldn't find this surprising. First in a favourable, he would certainly open 3D on xx x xxxxxx xxxx.
Love all he tends to show slightly more restraint, but still I would expect 6D to be on the club finesse. Even if partner has the CK, I don't expect 7D to make because I expect partner to be (21)64
If I have some way of asking for the king of clubs, I will do that and play 7C if partner has it. Failing that, 6D.
This is really a matter of knowing what partner thinks a first in, love all, 3D opening looks like.
Love all he tends to show slightly more restraint, but still I would expect 6D to be on the club finesse. Even if partner has the CK, I don't expect 7D to make because I expect partner to be (21)64
If I have some way of asking for the king of clubs, I will do that and play 7C if partner has it. Failing that, 6D.
This is really a matter of knowing what partner thinks a first in, love all, 3D opening looks like.
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Posted 2009-January-22, 04:58
FrancesHinden, on Jan 22 2009, 05:52 AM, said:
If I have some way of asking for the king of clubs, I will do that and play 7C if partner has it.
lol really? Would he really not open 3D with 7 diamonds and the CK and 7222 or 7321 ever? You Brits have some crazy preempting styles!
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Posted 2009-January-22, 06:14
JLOL, on Jan 22 2009, 10:58 AM, said:
FrancesHinden, on Jan 22 2009, 05:52 AM, said:
If I have some way of asking for the king of clubs, I will do that and play 7C if partner has it.
lol really? Would he really not open 3D with 7 diamonds and the CK and 7222 or 7321 ever? You Brits have some crazy preempting styles!
I wasn't being totally serious...
but 7C is the only possible grand opposite, say,
x
xxx
Jxxxxx
Kxx
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Posted 2009-January-22, 07:48
The hand may have a maximum of 11 tricks, easily. 7222 with a major King, clubs finesse failing, and the other major lead. A pattern ask (where's the stiff?) does little good, as it just directs the defense. A control ask (where's the control) does little as well, as a club control is likely a stiff.
Even 1282 or 2182 might have a maximum of 11 tricks.
Tough call.
Even 1282 or 2182 might have a maximum of 11 tricks.
Tough call.
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Posted 2009-January-22, 10:29
4♣ keycard, is a fairly standard treatment, and then over the 1st step response, ask for Kings, but I wouldn't bother. Just bid 6♦... even playing with Frances' partner. If I keep doing this, maybe he'll change his preempting style 
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Posted 2009-January-22, 10:38
Enough suspense, what did your pard have Ron?
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Posted 2009-January-22, 10:42
I'll bid 7♦ for the same reason Mike bid 6♦.
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Posted 2009-January-22, 10:42
jdonn, on Jan 22 2009, 11:42 AM, said:
I'll bid 7♦ for the same reason Mike bid 6♦.
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I think I will raise.
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Posted 2009-January-22, 18:56
If you bid 4C kC, pd will show none of course and if you then ask for Ks he will show 1.
Pd held
xx
Kxx
Jxxxxxx
x
Not me playing; I am reading the bulletins in Laos. These are two of the strongest players in Aust. (Maybe explains why we don't do so well).
The bidding was 3D 7D
On a S lead best line is probably the C hook, and hope to bring down KC in 3 rounds. Well the hook works but on the actual layout only 12 tricks are available.
Just wondered who would open 3D all green first in hand?
Pd held
xx
Kxx
Jxxxxxx
x
Not me playing; I am reading the bulletins in Laos. These are two of the strongest players in Aust. (Maybe explains why we don't do so well).
The bidding was 3D 7D
On a S lead best line is probably the C hook, and hope to bring down KC in 3 rounds. Well the hook works but on the actual layout only 12 tricks are available.
Just wondered who would open 3D all green first in hand?
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