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Problem #3 Another Slam Decision

#1 User is offline   rogerclee 

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Posted 2008-June-21, 02:06

IMPs, Red against White, Fourth Seat

♠Ax ♥KQ9x ♦AK8x ♣Jxx

(2♠) - Dbl - (3♠) - 4♠
(P) - 5♦ - (P) - ?

Agree with 4♠? Now what?
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Posted 2008-June-21, 08:58

rogerclee, on Jun 21 2008, 03:06 AM, said:

IMPs, Red against White, Fourth Seat ♠ Ax ♥ KQ9x ♦ AK8x ♣ Jxx
(2♠) - Dbl - (3♠) - 4♠
(P) - 5♦ - (P) - ?
Agree with 4♠? Now what?

IMO
  • Agree with 4♠
  • Now 7♦ = 10, 5♠ = 9, 6♦ = 8, 6N = 6, 7N = 5
Just a guess. On a bad day, may depend on a finesse or two; but partner should be sound for immediate action and, if we trust opponents :) then we're playing with a 34 HCP deck.
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Posted 2008-June-21, 09:02

Just 6D for me.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-June-21, 10:09

Grand? Guess I'm a bit pessimistic into thinking even slam might go down! xx Axx QJTxx KQx or something. My H9 could come in handy, or maybe partner will have the HJ. I think I'll just bid 6D.
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Posted 2008-June-21, 11:56

6♦

I would give pass a higher score than 7♦
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Posted 2008-June-21, 12:22

Tough call between pass and 6♦. 5♠ seems harmless but I think convinces partner to bid bad grands. 6♦ I guess, close one.
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Posted 2008-June-21, 12:42

I'd have made a responsive double rather than bidding 4♠. Then it would have gone:

(2♠) - Dbl - (3♠) - Dbl
(P) - 4♦ - (P) - 4♠

and partner would have had room to cooperate, if he had a suitable hand.

From where we are now, I'd bid 6♦.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-June-21, 13:57

A puzzle.

If my 4S showed two aces, then why am I not passing now?

In practice I'd bid 6D, because my agreements are not quite that good.
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Posted 2008-June-21, 14:31

Definitely don't agree with 4S, this hand was an easy X which keeps us a whole level lower. Now I bid 6D.
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Posted 2008-June-21, 15:31

Jlall, on Jun 21 2008, 03:31 PM, said:

Definitely don't agree with 4S, this hand was an easy X which keeps us a whole level lower.

Previously, I agreed with the cue-bid :) but Justin is obviously right again: a (responsive) X is better :o
Revised marks X = 10, 4♠ = 5
Also, _P must get some marks over 5♦, although I would optimisticallly boot the grand :)
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Posted 2008-June-21, 20:29

Scoring: IMP

6♥ is the money spot, but 6♦ happens to make. Your sequence to 6♥?
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Posted 2008-June-21, 21:44

I doubt I can find 6♥. I would start with a double and try 4♠ over 4♦. I imagine I would play 6♦.

Did you have Hx of clubs in West or KQ in East?
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Posted 2008-June-21, 21:49

pclayton, on Jun 21 2008, 08:44 PM, said:

I doubt I can find 6♥. I would start with a double and try 4♠ over 4♦. I imagine I would play 6♦.

Did you have Hx of clubs in West or KQ in East?

On the actual play of the hand, East led the ♣K, so it was a joke.

On a ♠ lead you will play side suits and find out East has 6 clubs, so there is nothing to play.
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Posted 2008-June-22, 04:03

I think partner had a normal 4NT call.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-June-22, 04:52

han, on Jun 22 2008, 11:03 AM, said:

I think partner had a normal 4NT call.

What sort of hand bids 5♦ rather than 4NT?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-June-22, 05:05

2353 would be a typical shape I think.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-June-22, 09:49

han, on Jun 22 2008, 02:03 AM, said:

I think partner had a normal 4NT call.

I agree. And we would 5N (or 5♠) and play 6♦ just the same.
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