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more hands I misbid playing 2/1

#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2008-June-21, 09:09


Dealer: North
Vul: NS
Scoring: IMP
♠ 9752
♥ K76
♦ T86
♣ Q84


West North East South

 -     1♠    Pass  ?
 
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Posted 2008-June-21, 09:15

1NT.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-June-21, 09:30

han, on Jun 21 2008, 10:15 AM, said:

1NT.

Huh?

2♠ for me. If it was 3(433) I don't mind 1NT. But 4 card support?
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Posted 2008-June-21, 09:57

I would bid 1NT playing 2/1, but I'm going to bid 2♠ playing SAYC.
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Posted 2008-June-21, 09:58

3♠ for me, probably not the popular choice.

I don't like Pass on this hand (although it may work), but I wouldn't describe any of the plausible bids as a misbid.
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Posted 2008-June-21, 10:01

Playing 2/1, I would bid 1NT. I surely can't pass, 4333 unfav doesn't warrant a 3S for me nor do I have anything to upgrade to a 2S 8-10 constructive raise.
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Posted 2008-June-21, 12:15

1NT. 2♠ is fine. HATE 3♠.
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Posted 2008-June-21, 14:40

1N
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Posted 2008-June-21, 15:51

jillybean2, on Jun 21 2008, 10:09 AM, said:

Dealer: North
Vul: NS
Scoring: IMP
♠ 9752
♥ K76
♦ T86
♣ Q84
West North East South
- 1♠ Pass ?

IMO _P = 10, 2♠ = 9, 1N = 3, 3♠ = 2.
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Posted 2008-June-21, 16:03

nige1, on Jun 21 2008, 11:51 PM, said:

jillybean2, on Jun 21 2008, 10:09 AM, said:

Dealer: North
Vul: NS
Scoring: IMP
♠ 9752
♥ K76
♦ T86
♣ Q84
West  North East  South
-    1♠    Pass  ?

IMO _P = 10, 2♠ = 9, 1N = 3, 3♠ = 2.

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Posted 2008-June-21, 16:05

Agree that 3S is not an option.

The title says 2/1 btw.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-June-21, 18:46

I have two 8s and 2 7s, what more do I need to bid 2♠?

Seriously, is 8-10 in 2/1 standard? I always thought it was a good 6 to bad 10, eg.

typical minimum: K98 432 QJT98 32
typical maximum: K98 J43 8654 AQ5

but I'm just asking here.
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Posted 2008-June-21, 19:43

1NT
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Posted 2008-June-22, 01:42

nige1, on Jun 21 2008, 04:51 PM, said:

jillybean2, on Jun 21 2008, 10:09 AM, said:

Dealer: North
Vul: NS
Scoring: IMP
♠ 9752
♥ K76
♦ T86
♣ Q84
West  North East  South
-    1♠    Pass  ?

IMO _P = 10, 2♠ = 9, 1N = 3, 3♠ = 2.

Seriously?

Anyway, 1N looks perfect.
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Posted 2008-June-23, 05:29

1NT

My rationale goes like this :
A 4333 shape 4 card support gets demoted to count as a 3 card support ; a 5 count 3 card support bids forcing next step then rebids 2 of the major.

Comments on the other bids espoused :
Pass is pathetic, you need to show support ; 2♠ is over the top, why risk a good hand opposite going to the 3 level for the only negative score?; 3♠ is certainly preemptive, but a pre-empt too far with this shape.
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