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MP doubles or not?

Poll: which hand would you double with? (22 member(s) have cast votes)

which hand would you double with?

  1. both (8 votes [36.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.36%

  2. 1 (5 votes [22.73%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.73%

  3. 2 (5 votes [22.73%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.73%

  4. neither (4 votes [18.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.18%

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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2008-February-12, 14:48

1. MP, None, pd deals, RHO opens 1♠.

K
xxxx
AQxx
Kxxx

2. MP, None, pd deals, RHO opens 3♣.

KQJx
Qxx
Axxx
Qx
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Posted 2008-February-12, 14:55

Only the second, I think this is clear.
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Posted 2008-February-12, 15:04

(1) Double, not close.
(2) Double. This might be closer, with Qx in their suit, and partner being a passed hand, but I still double.
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Posted 2008-February-12, 15:10

both, but 1 is very clear and 2 is reasonably close. Gotta get in on 1.
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Posted 2008-February-12, 15:20

MP none -- I'd do it on both even though pard is a PH

I'd do it without a second thought if pard were an unpassed hand.
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Posted 2008-February-12, 15:25

At MP I'd double with both.
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Posted 2008-February-12, 15:45

I understand the concept of "getting in" at MPs with all white, but I still disagree that doubling on hands like the first is a winning strategy (opposite a PH).

For one, the hand is just not very good, and it is weak in the suit that partner is most likely to compete in, hearts. Wouldn't it be nice to know that when partner doubles 1S, he has a good hand?

Two, if LHO redoubles, I'm going to be sick. At the very least, we have given LHO the opportunity to show a 3-card LR at the 2-level. In general, when I make a takeout double, I give LHO more options.

Three, I can still balance over 2S. I agree this is not as ideal, but we can still compete by passing the first time, and at least this way, partner doesn't go crazy. If they're willing to bid up to the three-level, then we probably weren't stealing anything anyway. I agree that this has a big minus of getting partner's input at the 3-level, not the 2-level.

Four, this allows declarer to play the hand better by volunteering information, both from me and from my partner if he chooses to compete.

I understand the plusses (competing early, trying to steal a partscore, might even make game opposite a good fit), but I'm just saying I think the minuses outweigh them.
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Posted 2008-February-13, 04:38

I'm gonna dbl both. It's MPs, after all.
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Posted 2008-February-13, 08:36

Dbl with both.
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Posted 2008-February-13, 08:43

Only the first one. I don't like Dbl on the second one at all.
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Posted 2008-February-13, 08:44

Wow... exactly 4 votes for each of the 4 options.
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