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Another invite slam or not is this really enough or?

#21 User is offline   kenrexford 

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Posted 2008-February-11, 13:39

I don't think that the overall strength is necessarily wrong -- it is the location of that strength.

For instance, I might consider 4NT with the slight tweak of this hand:

♠A1094 ♥KJ98 ♦42 ♣K95

A lot more to work with. I still think that 4NT is a bit aggressive, but not as wild.

If I move, I like 4♣ as "optional baron," meaning to resign 4NT with a mkinimum or bid 4-card suits up the line with values, cuebidding with clubs.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 14:43

I don't like 4NT, too often it will drive us to bad slams. The main problems here are that usually hearts values are badly placed, and ♦K-A are points in a short suit and will produce usually only 2 tricks. We can make slam in 2 cases:
- partner has a maximum hand with a source of tricks
- partner has maximum, with a major suit fit and trumps lie well

I don't know your methods over 3NT overcall, but this slam seems a bridge too far for me.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 15:22

Cascade, on Feb 11 2008, 01:14 PM, said:

Jlall, on Feb 12 2008, 04:49 AM, said:

Agree with pass and its not close. We get to bad slams/go down in 4N too much to be bidding here. We need a mountain to make 6, and my partners have some kind of 15 count where 3N is touch and go way too often.

Maybe they bid 3NT too often.

Maybe they understand they have to bid 3N with a wide range of hands because otherwise they will miss a lot of games, and that they do not need the usual 25 HCP for game that they usually do since they will play it well + shut out the preemptor etc.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 16:11

I agree with the popular vote here - this is a pass.

At the table my partner after some though raised to 4NT (last time I overcalled I had 19 and we missed a slam).

Holding Kxx A Ax AT8xxxx I had an easy 6♣ now. +1370
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Posted 2008-February-12, 04:39

I think Ron (the_hog) has a nice gadget over (3x)-3NT that lets you know what 3NT was based on. That would work nice here.
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