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Suggested Bidding? NT vs 5-2 major fits

#1 User is offline   rbforster 

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Posted 2008-January-30, 03:13

North opens and opponents are silent.



What's your auction? (Fancy stuff is ok too)
Where would you like to be if you could pick?
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Posted 2008-January-30, 03:44

1 - 1
2 - 2
3 - 4
4

3: game try, suggests 5422 and no clear direction
4: ok, let's play game, pick a major, suggests decent spades
4: maybe the long suit of the weak hand has a better chance to succeed
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Posted 2008-January-30, 03:48

3N by N seems good against human opponents.

My auction:

1-1
2-2

2 = Gazilli, natural or 17+ art
2 = 5-7HCP, usually 2

So I don't get to this one.
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Posted 2008-January-30, 04:00

Standard or what I really play?

Standard:

1 - 1
2 - 2
...

Now North wants to invite without stopper in and there isn't really a bid for that, so I guess I would probably pass at MP or NV at IMPs. When vuln. at IMPs this is a tough problem. Your choice is basically to overbid 3.

System with regular pd

1 - 1NT*
2** - 2***
2§ - Pass

* 5+
** Gazilli
*** 6+ any
§ 13 - 17 with and

4 of a major looks like a good bet but kudos if you get there with 24 HCP and no fit!
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Posted 2008-January-30, 04:09

My auction would start the obvious way -
1H - 1S
2C - 2H

North now has a very difficult call. One possibility is 2S, showing a 3514 with extra values which would work fine as responder will bid 4S.

THe other possibility is a 4th suit 3D, over which responder will most likely bid 4H, which is a little worse.
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Posted 2008-January-30, 04:14

Rob F, on Jan 30 2008, 09:13 AM, said:


What's your auction? (Fancy stuff is ok too)

1 1
2 2
2NT pass

2NT = natural, good 15 to 17

nothing fancy needed :)
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Posted 2008-January-30, 05:40

1-1NT (spades)
2-2
2NT-pass

last pass is not so clear, but the intermediates aren't good for a move.
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Posted 2008-January-30, 05:52

Agree with Whereagles.
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Posted 2008-January-30, 06:40

I think I would bid 1H-1S-2C-2H-2S-4S. Obviously openers 3rd bid is the key to the hand.
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Posted 2008-January-30, 09:56

So which do people think is the best contract? Obviously they're all better from North, but 4H or 4S or 3N? I think I liked 3N best, but 4H slightly better than 4S.
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Posted 2008-January-31, 05:23

4 is the best contract.
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Posted 2008-January-31, 05:52

Hi,

1H - 1S
2C - 2H
Pass

If North wants to bid on, than 2NT it is.

2S by North is not an option, this should
show 3 card support, i.e. a 5431 shape.
2S is only an option, if South showed 5+,
say you play Kalplan Inversion, in which
case 2S would be a great bid.
But even than, if South knows, that he faces
only 2 card support he may pass 2S.

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Posted 2008-January-31, 11:59

I agree that opener's third bid is the key, and I think it is clearly not a pass. I'm honestly not sure what I would have bid.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-January-31, 12:28

I would either bid 2 or 3 as North at the third call -- where the values are.
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Posted 2008-January-31, 15:41

Tough problem. 2 would be my 3rd bid with the north hand after the obvious first four bids in the auction.
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Posted 2008-February-01, 01:08

emailed bid it.


1H=1S
2C=2H
3H=4H

TOUGH HAND.
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