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Sit Or Run?

Poll: Your call? (19 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call?

  1. Pass (6 votes [31.58%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.58%

  2. 2[SP] (12 votes [63.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 63.16%

  3. 3[CL] (1 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  4. Something else (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   TylerE 

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Posted 2008-January-30, 19:32

Scoring: IMP

(1NT) - X (Penalty) - (2D) (transfer) - p
(2H) - X - p - ??

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Posted 2008-January-30, 19:35

Partner has made a takeout double, so I take it out.
2♠.

If partner's double is penalty, I pass.
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Posted 2008-January-30, 19:44

Well, that's really the question...

Lacking a specific agreement, what is P likely to have for the 2nd double?
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Posted 2008-January-30, 20:23

TylerE, on Jan 30 2008, 08:44 PM, said:

Well, that's really the question...

Lacking a specific agreement, what is P likely to have for the 2nd double?

I'm not sure there is a standard here. There are some people I play with where I wouldn't even dream this is a penalty double, and there are some where I would suspect it is.

Anyway, I bid 2♠. Passing is too risky for me if I don't even know what partner's x is. If I knew it was penalty, I would pass, since I have two trumps I didn't promise. I don't have great experiences passing out penalty doubles like this, though, so I could be easily convinced that 2♠ is better anyway.
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Posted 2008-January-31, 03:21

I pass because I have the rule that any x after a penalty double is for penalty.
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Posted 2008-January-31, 03:46

Hi,

depends on partnership agreement,
I believe that partners double is
for t/o, hence I bid 2S, but I have to
check, ... and I may well be wrong.

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Posted 2008-January-31, 03:50

You can play dbl as penalties, but I don't think that's technically the best.
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Posted 2008-January-31, 05:28

penalty double by my agreements, and pass nowm frightened, but pass. Hopefully 2♦ wasn't really transfer.
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Posted 2008-January-31, 08:03

It looks like a penalty double situation to me. Don't know whether I'd leave it. I guess I have no choice but to leave it in.
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Posted 2008-January-31, 08:21

Must be t/o for the same reason as why most low-level doubles are for t/o: p is more likely to have a hand suited for t/o than for penalties, and also it is more important that he can bid something if he has a t/o double. With a hand suited for penalty double he can pass, or bid 3NT is he really has to.
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Posted 2008-January-31, 08:54

I'd bid 2♠. I would tend to interpret this double as takeout if undiscussed, and although that is less likely here, it's certainly not a lock that pard has a penalty double and I think there's a small chance 2♥ may make even if this is the case.
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Posted 2008-January-31, 09:53

I bid 2♠. Second double is takeout for me, and event if it isn't, I would be very scared to play 2♥X, more to lose than to gain IMO.
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