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  1. Small Heart (2 votes [15.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.38%

  2. Heart Ace, Club ruff, ... (11 votes [84.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 84.62%

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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2008-January-24, 11:36

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You declare 4 after p-p-p-4. LHO leads A and switches to a small heart. Opps aren't very good and don't believe in defensive signals.
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Posted 2008-January-24, 11:47

Running the heart does seem mega-committal.

I prefer HA, C ruff, spade to the 10, club ruff, trumps.
The CK might appear during this exercise, but if it doesn't the defenders who don't believe in signals may go wrong.
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Posted 2008-January-24, 12:18

FrancesHinden, on Jan 24 2008, 12:47 PM, said:

Running the heart does seem mega-committal.

I prefer HA, C ruff, spade to the 10, club ruff, trumps.
The CK might appear during this exercise, but if it doesn't the defenders who don't believe in signals may go wrong.

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Posted 2008-January-24, 12:32

I'd just go for the low heart.
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Posted 2008-January-24, 12:47

I'll play to set up clubs, running my trumps when I've used up my entry should put pressure on opponents who may discard badly to give me that extra chance that the 50-50-ish shot at LHO having the heart Q doesn't give me.
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Posted 2008-January-24, 13:04

brianshark, on Jan 24 2008, 01:47 PM, said:

I'll play to set up clubs, running my trumps when I've used up my entry should put pressure on opponents who may discard badly to give me that extra chance that the 50-50-ish shot at LHO having the heart Q doesn't give me.

I agree with the idea of winning the heart in dummy and trying to establish the club suit, then running spades.

Not only do you have the advantage of opponents who discard poorly, but you may very well have a legitimate squeeze. There are threats in all three suits, so you may have a simple squeeze against either opponent, a double squeeze, or even a triple squeeze if one of the opponents is unfortunate enough to have six hearts, the KQ of diamonds and the K (the diamond threat may wind up being the x in your hand, depending upon how the play develops).
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Posted 2008-January-24, 13:32

FrancesHinden, on Jan 24 2008, 09:47 AM, said:

Running the heart does seem mega-committal.

I prefer HA, C ruff, spade to the 10, club ruff, trumps.
The CK might appear during this exercise, but if it doesn't the defenders who don't believe in signals may go wrong.

Popping with the Ace is pretty committal too.

If you are good at reading compound endings, fly with the Ace, otherwise float the heart. This also gives us an easier chance at bringing down AKx.
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Posted 2008-January-24, 14:15

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Posted 2008-January-24, 14:26

Try for clubs. Looks like better percentage than West holding King of clubs and Queen of hearts and not finding another switch.
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Posted 2008-January-24, 14:59

bad opps are NEVER ever shifting from the HQ. It is more likely they have the HQ if they are good, at least they understand why it might be beneficial. Bad players tend to defend too passively and get scared to underlead a Q looking at an AK in dummy and do not try to kill entries and set up tricks etc. The only thing that would make me change this view is if they thought forever before shifting to a heart (then maybe they're scared of everything... a trump might "pickle" partner lol).

This is not to mention that if LHO has AK of clubs he is a passed hand so he's less likely to have HQ or he may have had an opening bid (if combined with DK). If he has no diamond honor and the HQ he will shift to a diamond for sure. So really he'd need DQ, HQ, CAK or something.

I cannot believe you guys are syaing heart is 50/50, maybe it was before LHO played any cards but we have more info now.
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Posted 2008-January-24, 19:52

I'll pop at T2 and ruff a club, cross to the spade T and ruff another club, playing for the club K to drop in three. If it doesn't, I'll run my spades to reach this position



On the last spade, W must keep his club, so he reduces himself to two red cards. I'll play for him to have kept 1-1, which will subject E to a red-suit squeeze. I can equivalently cash the diamond A first to play for a typical double squeeze.
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