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#61 User is offline   Walddk 

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Posted 2006-June-02, 07:36

GeeGee, on Jun 2 2006, 03:11 PM, said:

Walddk, on Jun 2 2006, 11:27 AM, said:

GeeGee, on Jun 2 2006, 01:14 PM, said:

Walddk, on May 31 2006, 10:31 AM, said:

P.S. Jeffrey and I will be umpiring (Alan 3rd umpire), Fred is the match referee, Frances is World 1's physio, Paul belongs to World2, and Sean will bring drinks on to the field. The rest will be commentating on TV  ;)

I will do my Henry Blofeld impression on Test Match Special.

"A crow has landed on the pavilion roof, could this be an omen?"

:)

hehe Yes, what a character he was.

Was? Still is, I hope, though I haven't been listening to radio 4 today. Some employers. :(

Oops, still *is* of course. I was just referring to the quote GeeGee came up with.

Regarding the World XI (1 and 2). I hoped it was clear that I meant current active players, not the all time greats.

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Posted 2006-June-02, 07:38

Boo. This is a cricket forum. No Americans allowed!!!

My top TV commentators:

1. Mark Nicholas
2. David Lloyd
3. Geoffrey Boycott
4. Richie Benaud
5. Ian Botham

And Radio commentators:

1. Henry Blofeld
2. Henry Blofeld
3. etc etc
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Posted 2006-June-02, 09:49

Walddk, on Jun 2 2006, 01:36 PM, said:

Regarding the World XI (1 and 2). I hoped it was clear that I meant current active players, not the all time greats.

Roland

Yes, I know, but I couldn't improve on Frances' lists, so I thought I'd indulge myself with a little daydreaming. I'm still at work after all. :)

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Posted 2006-June-02, 11:59

Once again England let Sri Lanka off the hook on a perfect batting strip. SL shouldn't have got close to 200.

Then Trescothick threw his wicket away. The attempt for a second run was, well let me put it diplomatically: crazy!

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Posted 2006-June-02, 13:19

Walddk, on Jun 2 2006, 11:27 AM, said:

GeeGee, on Jun 2 2006, 01:14 PM, said:

Walddk, on May 31 2006, 10:31 AM, said:

P.S. Jeffrey and I will be umpiring (Alan 3rd umpire), Fred is the match referee, Frances is World 1's physio, Paul belongs to World2, and Sean will bring drinks on to the field. The rest will be commentating on TV  :)

I will do my Henry Blofeld impression on Test Match Special.

"A crow has landed on the pavilion roof, could this be an omen?"

:)

hehe Yes, what a character he was. By the way, who is your favourite TV commentator (top 5)? Here is my list:

1. Bob Willis.
2. Ian Botham.
3. David Gower.
4. Michael Holding.
5. David Lloyd.

Roland

Bob Willis? Are you completely mad? No-one can stand him!!


1) Richie Benaud (sadly retired)

Little point in having any more TV commentators but...

2) Boycs (very funny when overly partisan with foreign commentators!
3) Simon Hughes
4) Michael Holding
5) Michael Slater

Radio (TMS at work is the only civilised way to conduct the day)

1) Blowers
2) Boycs
3) Aggers (with Vic Marks)
4) Johners (sadly missed)
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Posted 2006-June-02, 13:21

Walddk, on Jun 2 2006, 06:59 PM, said:

Then Trescothick threw his wicket away. The attempt for a second run was, well let me put it diplomatically: crazy!

There was an easy two runs.

However you are supposed to start running when you hit the ball into the gap, and stopping half way down the track on the way back is not recommended either.

At least it wasn't Cook's fault this time :)

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Posted 2006-June-02, 13:22

Sadly once again, England can't finish off a wagging tail and then proceed to go nuts on a decent batting track. Strauss got a reasonable delivery but should at least have got a bat on it, and Banger was just off his head.
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Posted 2006-June-02, 13:37

the saint, on Jun 2 2006, 08:19 PM, said:

Walddk, on Jun 2 2006, 11:27 AM, said:

GeeGee, on Jun 2 2006, 01:14 PM, said:

Walddk, on May 31 2006, 10:31 AM, said:

P.S. Jeffrey and I will be umpiring (Alan 3rd umpire), Fred is the match referee, Frances is World 1's physio, Paul belongs to World2, and Sean will bring drinks on to the field. The rest will be commentating on TV  :)

I will do my Henry Blofeld impression on Test Match Special.

"A crow has landed on the pavilion roof, could this be an omen?"

:)

hehe Yes, what a character he was. By the way, who is your favourite TV commentator (top 5)? Here is my list:

1. Bob Willis.
2. Ian Botham.
3. David Gower.
4. Michael Holding.
5. David Lloyd.

Roland

Bob Willis? Are you completely mad? No-one can stand him!!

I was wondering how to phrase my thoughts on this ... but Alan has done it for me :)
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Posted 2006-June-03, 02:56

Close of play prediction:

Sri Lanka
1st 231 ao
2nd 43-2

England
1st 313ao

Any other takers?
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Posted 2006-June-03, 03:18

Sri Lanka
1st 231

England
392-8

Cook 88
Flintoff 79*
Collingwood 56
Pietersen 44
Jones 35
Plonker 11*

Maybe you don't spell his name the way I did, but excuse me, it seems quite appropriate after all the half-volleys he produced yesterday.

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Posted 2006-June-03, 04:32

Echognome, on Jun 2 2006, 11:31 PM, said:

Not to get too off topic, but how many olympic medals does Australia win vis-a-vis the U.S.?

I'm going to need some clarification here.

do you mean:

- how many actual medals does Australia win compared with the USA or
- how many medals per 100,000 population or
- how many medals per $1million dollar spent on sports funding?

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Posted 2006-June-03, 06:01

nickf, on Jun 3 2006, 10:32 AM, said:

Echognome, on Jun 2 2006, 11:31 PM, said:

Not to get too off topic, but how many olympic medals does Australia win vis-a-vis the U.S.?

I'm going to need some clarification here.

do you mean:

- how many actual medals does Australia win compared with the USA or
- how many medals per 100,000 population or
- how many medals per $1million dollar spent on sports funding?

nickf
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Since I like cricket, I don't want this to get too tangential.

Overall olympic medals (summer + winter) all time:

USA 2407 (974g 772s 661b)
Australia 392 (120g 122s 150b)

Summer only:
USA 2191 (896g 692s 603b)
Australia 386 (117g 122s 147b)

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Olym...mes_medal_count

Current Populations:

USA ~300m
Australia ~20m

Source: http://www.mnsu.edu/...ion/population/

Sports spending - No idea! But perhaps that should be per capita as well for comparison.

So Australia has done well for its size. But then on that comparison, Sweden with 588 (470 summer) medals and a population of around 9m has done much better. In levels, the U.S. has nearly twice as many as its nearest rival (USSR).

If there's any more debate, perhaps it should be carried forward to another thread.
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Posted 2006-June-03, 16:33

OI. NO. THIS IS A CRICKET THREAD. IF YOU WANT YOUR SILLY 'OOOH THE AUSSIES ARE BETTER THAN THE US or U-S-A, U-S-A ' THREAD, THEN GO AND START ONE SOMEWHERE ELSE!!! THIS IS A CRICKET THREAD.

C - R - I - C - K - E - T.

Rant over. Unless you continue to go off topic.

Well, England batted like prize bananas and Roland was even further off the mark than myself. The boys are going to have to play well tomorrow to get this one back. Personally, I think the Lankans will do it. Sangakkara has been batting well without luck and is due a big score. I think he will get it tomorrow... ;)
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Posted 2006-June-03, 17:34

the saint, on Jun 4 2006, 12:33 AM, said:

Well, England batted like prize bananas and Roland was even further off the mark than myself

Well, at least I got Pietersen's score almost right :P The rest is silence, apart from the fact that Plonker did live up to the (not so flattering) nickname I gave him.

"They say he can bat, but I am not convinced", was Geoffrey Boycott's comment on Radio 4.

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Posted 2006-June-03, 18:41

A few, mostly Americans, have asked me to explain how cricket is played. OK then, are you ready for a novel? Before I begin, perhaps I should tell you that this is not all there is to say!

Cricket is a team game played during the summer in England and in several countries influenced by the British, such as Australia, New Zealand, India, Pakistan, South Africa, Sri Lanka and West Indies.

The game is played between two teams of 11 players on a grassy field, in the center of which are two wickets - the equivalent of baseball's bases. When a team is "in", the other team attempts to get each of them "out". Then the team that was "in" is "all out", and takes its place in the outfield. The team that was in the outfield in turn goes "in" until they too are "all out".

This process (an innings) may be repeated once more (a match can last one day or take as many as five). 5-day matches are known as test matches.

The team with the highest number of runs (points scored primarily by running between wickets after hitting the ball) wins the match.

Cricket freaks (like myself) will tell you that one subtle difference between their sport and baseball is that the ball can bounce before the batsman hits it. This bouncing is called a pitch, but the player bouncing it is not called a pitcher like his baseball equivalent. He is the bowler.

He must keep his arm straight when releasing the ball, which he aims at the batsman's wicket.

The wicket consists of three upright wooden sticks so placed that the ball cannot pass between them. Wooden bails lie in grooves on top of them. When hit by the ball the whole or part of the arrangement collapses, indicating the batsman is out. When a team has lost 10 wickets, the innings is over. The 11th player (who is "not out") is not allowed to bat alone.

The act of bouncing the ball on its way to the batsman allows the bowler to impart movement to the ball with the intention of catching the batsman unaware. This movement may cause the batsman to missjudge the flight of the ball, resulting him to mis-hit into the waiting hands of a player from the opposite team, or even to miss it altogether.

As a batsman there are several ways to get out. The most common are caught, bowled, run out and leg before wicket.

A collection of six balls (deliveries) is called an over.

According to the speed (pace) and movement of a ball, the batsman has various options. He may drive it along the ground, lift it into air, or flick it to the side or behind himself. Alternatively, he may use the safety pads on his legs (or arms) to stop or deflect the ball. This is risky because it will invariably prompt the bowler and his team to shout "Howwizzzahhtt"!

This means something like "How does that look to you Umpire - is he out"? and is often ignored by the umpire (referee) unless he judges that the ball would have continued on to hit the wicket. Then the batsman is given out (leg before wicket or lbw) and the bowler's team-mates smugly feel that their banshee scream was justified.

If the batsman is out without having scored a run, this is a duck and his embarrassment is compounded.

On the edge of the field is the boundary. If a batsman hits the ball to this boundary he is awarded 4 runs. If it does not bounce before doing so it is 6 runs (and stands a good chance of hitting a spectator). :P

The field itself is divided into two halves, the on side and the off side. "On" is synonymous with "Leg", and represents the side of the field to the left of the batsman as he faces the bowler or opposite wicket, presuming that he is right-handed. If he is a left-hander, everything is reversed.

Fielders are placed at strategic positions (in order to both stop runs and to catch a batsman out if possible) and these positions have distinct names. For example, the long off position is near the boundary, far away from the batsman to his front and right, while silly mid-on represents a position of extreme danger, as the name might suggest, being as it is immediately to a batsman's left.

A square leg says more about where one umpire stands rather than how he is standing, while backward point or deep fine leg says nothing about any mental or physical ability at all.

There are various other fielding positions. To name just a few: slip, gully and cover point.



I could go on for hours, but it's time for me to say ....

Howzat!? ... and "Cricket is life, the rest is mere details".

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Posted 2006-June-04, 12:11

A complete beginner's guide to CRICKET!

This is from the BBC Website. Should be a little clearer than Roland's explanation!!

If you can understand the lbw law, then you know the game!
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Posted 2006-June-04, 13:47

Ah yes, the LBW laws...

As Willow would say to Stumpy, "Well young Stumpy, a batsman is out LBW if the umpire judges that the ball hits the batsman's leg (or any other part of the body, with the exception of the gloves if the gloves are holding on to the bat), and would have gone on to hit the wicket:

EXCEPT if the ball pitched outside leg stump, he shall be given not out.

EXCEPT if the ball struck the batsman outside of the area between the two sets of stumps AND the batsman is making a genuine attempt to play the ball.

EXCEPT if the ball struck the bat or gloves when holding on to the bat BEFORE striking the leg.
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Posted 2006-June-05, 00:51

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Ah yes, the LBW laws...


You forgot the part about assuming it is a legal delivery :D

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Posted 2006-June-05, 01:20

Some of the fielding positions and other expressions from cricket must sound pretty weird to outsiders:

Third man, slip, gully, night-watchman, googly, chinaman, doosra, protected area, popping crease, no ball, wide ball, byes, leg byes, timed out are just a few examples.

You really should be at a cricket ground and have an expert by your side to tell you about the various details when they happen. TV is ok, but there is no substitute for the real thing.

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Posted 2006-June-05, 09:12

Muralitharan has 6-fer. We're not going to win this one...
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