[P_Marlowe]

pescetom, on 2026-November-10, 06:44, said:

4Dx-2 is 500, would have been a bottom for NS. Nobody in that contract, but there were some 5H+2, more likely taking the push over 5D than a slam investigation that petered out.
I wouldn't be surprised if several West passed 3Dx, making hearts easier to find.

Sign me up for the 500, .., but than I am playing IMPs, even at MP.

[pescetom]

 mike777, on 2026-November-10, 10:12, said:

1C={3D)=X=(4D)
??

Are we in a gf?
If so is forcing to pass on? If gf Is on I believe yes.
If not your call and why?

This was discussed earlier in the thread, with Davidkok opining for a game force X and mikeh for invitational (3♠ could be passed).

If we are in a game force, it's not completely clear to me what North's calls of Pass/X/4M are saying after 4♦.

[P_Marlowe]

pescetom, on 2026-November-10, 11:24, said:

This was discussed earlier in the thread, with Davidkok opining for a game force X and mikeh for invitational (3♠ could be passed).

If we are in a game force, it's not completely clear to me what North's calls of Pass/X/4M are saying after 4♦.

Although the seq. started with a strong NT, i.e. the lower flower for opener was higher.
One may convince me, that the neg. X (by a passed hand?) at the 3 level after a strong NT
opening generates a GF, ..., but this does not mean, that one would be able to do this,
if the opening was 1 suit.

The diff is, after 1NT, if i dont want to defend and I dont have a 4 card major, I have to
bid game, i.e. making the auction GF, ..., why not.

[mike777]

pescetom, on 2026-November-10, 11:24, said:

This was discussed earlier in the thread, with Davidkok opining for a game force X and mikeh for invitational (3♠ could be passed).

If we are in a game force, it's not completely clear to me what North's calls of Pass/X/4M are saying after 4♦.

I think you mean what do souths calls mean after 4D by east, west bids 3d, east raises to 4d in my example

If gf then pass is the strongest, double is the weaker call, 4H is the middle call, pass and then pull partners double would be the very strongest call.

fwiw I think as south I would pass; as north I would bid 5NT pick a slam

but again bias as I see all North and south hands, my biggest fear, bad breaks esp. if ew are vul

[thepossum]

P_Marlowe, on 2026-November-10, 03:57, said:

After 1H, you will get a 3D overcall.
Opener will show a strong heart raise with 4D, and than what?
Obv. you have a void, you have 2 Aces, but you are dead min.


I am not sure, if over 4D you get 5D, they have 11.

I actually need to check my system and work out what my partner would bid over 3 diamonds
Possibly a double for takeout
I am playimng a fairly unsophisitcated 2/1 system. If partner shows hearts I bid hearts at the lowest sub game level
If my show of only game interest hearts sparks additional bidding let us see

Edit I just ran in through Qplus demo and sure enough partner did takeout X and we ended in 4H - I'm not as dumb as a I look
Opps did not compete beyond 4D - I guess we could go to 5 hearts

[mike777]

Strangely enough the more and more diamonds EW preempt with, the easier for NS to get to slam.


If they were quiet I only get to game...