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Posted 2026-November-01, 13:38

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Playing 2/1 with NT 15-17 and 20-21, your call?
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Posted 2026-November-01, 13:39

Open 1♠ like everybody not playing strong club, yes
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Posted 2026-November-01, 13:49

Do I? No
1♠
“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
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Posted 2026-November-01, 13:59

Assuming
1♠-1N
playing a transfer approach
2♦ weak ♥/strong♦ - preference?
3♣ 5x4x GF
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Posted 2026-November-01, 14:32

1S as well, and not bidding 3NT over 1NT.
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Posted 2026-November-01, 15:06

 apollo1201, on 2026-November-01, 14:32, said:

1S as well, and not bidding 3NT over 1NT.

What would you bid over 1NT?
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Posted 2026-November-01, 15:43

1S-

Will rebid 3D
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Posted 2026-November-01, 16:06

You don't get the 1NT dilemma.

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The 2♣ bid is a nebulous GF, there is no GF fit bid.
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Posted 2026-November-01, 17:38

2♦ seems to be the most descriptive bid I have.

I am very happy I didn't go wild pn the opening bid.

oh hang on, 3♣
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Posted 2026-November-01, 19:25

2D

Over 2H or 2S or 2NT will rebid 3C
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Posted 2026-November-01, 23:32

Playing 2♦ as minimum in my nebulous 2♣
3♣ now shows ♦ with extras denying 4oM, 4♣, 6♠ in the process.
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Posted 2026-November-02, 03:29

 jillybean, on 2026-November-01, 17:38, said:

2♦ seems to be the most descriptive bid I have.

I am very happy I didn't go wild pn the opening bid.

oh hang on, 3♣

An immediate 3♣ would be 4 card for me.
Granted, the suit is strong enough to justify an exception, but I don't see any pressing reason to deviate from the systemic 2♦ bid (AJxx is one of the reasons the title is a question).
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Posted 2026-November-02, 03:33

I'll stay out of this as I don't play the nebulous 2♣, so we'd only have the same auction if partner actually has clubs or is 3433.

Will tell you later how I would bid this, but most likely a GF not necessarily bal 2N rebid as our 2/1 not GF unless partner has 4+♠ in which case we show this immediately or 33(34) 13-15 where we respond 3N.
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Posted 2026-November-02, 04:55

 pescetom, on 2026-November-01, 15:06, said:

What would you bid over 1NT?

Was thinking 3D bra aide at the club they always lead the other M!
And was thinking probably driving to slam over 2 something (and 4S only over 2S, too many requirements (AQ S and KD are great but partner cannot have more and we are still a long way from 6).
Seems now 2 over 2C is enough and we have plenty of space to learn and press the accelerator later.
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Posted 2026-November-02, 06:44

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You would get 3♠ over 3♣ too.
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Posted 2026-November-02, 06:49

Hi,

#1 we are Gf, and I have not promised more than an opening, maybe I have shown 4+ diamonds
#2 we have a fit, I dont know the system, but the fit would not be obv. after 3S over 3C
you could also ask, what is the diff between 2S and 3S, but I guess this leads to nowhere
#3 we have the controls in the all the suits

What is wrong with RKCB?

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Posted 2026-November-02, 07:02

 P_Marlowe, on 2026-November-02, 06:49, said:


you could also ask, what is the diff between 2S and 3S, but I guess this leads to nowhere


3S fixes trumps and requests control-bid (or non-serious).
2S does not set trumps definitely (could be 2 card support in a hand unsuited to 2NT) and asks Opener to continue to describe his hand.
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Posted 2026-November-02, 07:36

 pescetom, on 2026-November-02, 07:02, said:

3S fixes trumps and requests control-bid (or non-serious).
2S does not set trumps definitely (could be 2 card support in a hand unsuited to 2NT) and asks Opener to continue to describe his hand.


7S
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Posted 2026-November-02, 07:57

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You would get 3♠ over 3♣ too.

Why is partner jumping in a gf auction?

reading on further, I do not like your system. How do you make a gf raise with 3 spades?
Why is partner not bidding 2N or 3♣ over 2♦?

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Posted 2026-November-02, 08:24

So your question really isn't how do we bid this but how do we bid this using your system?
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