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#1 User is offline   richilue 

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Posted 2026-November-01, 10:46

After 1D 2D is it better to show shape or controls with possible 3NT in mind.

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Posted 2026-November-01, 10:59

In 2 over 1 its standard to show control. u know that 2D means no 4 in major so unless u didnt open with 6D and 5 in major u dont have fit. So 2S here would mean i have spade control but not control in hearts or club
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Posted 2026-November-01, 10:59

Best is to play some artificial continuations, but of these two I'd show shape rather than controls.

The example hand is a good example: which game do you want to be in? Or are you stopping in 4♦? I think hitting the brakes with this 14-count opposite an opening is not a great use of bidding space, so realistically you are choosing between 1 down in 3NT (but a defensive error might let it through) or 1 down in 5♦ (with no chance of stealing the making trick).

Watch out for recommendations of controls - they were standard half a century ago, and they still pop up from time to time.
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Posted 2026-November-01, 11:22

In the real world east bids over 1D, so this hand, which clearly is a poster child for avoiding 3N, is misleading.
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Posted 2026-November-01, 13:08

View Postmikeh, on 2026-November-01, 11:22, said:

In the real world east bids over 1D, so this hand, which clearly is a poster child for avoiding 3N, is misleading.

And after (say) 1D (1H) how does it go at expert level?
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Posted 2026-November-01, 13:59

View Postpescetom, on 2026-November-01, 13:08, said:

And after (say) 1D (1H) how does it go at expert level?

1D (1H) 2H
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Posted 2026-November-02, 14:39

Seeing only the N/S hands, I want to be in 3N, especially at MPs. And I don't want to have shown controls, because that will tell the opps what to lead.
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Posted 2026-November-04, 11:07

In my preferred method, which I wrote about years ago in Bridge World, my auction would be 1D-2D/2n-3n. If they lead a heart, we won't make it unless they block the suit. Next.
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Posted 2026-November-04, 15:08

I think the correct word is stopper, not control.

QJx is a stopper, not a control, same as a small sg which is a control but not a stopper.

Anyway, I think showing shape rathe than stoppers (esp if resp can have a 4-cd major on the side) tends to better results. When both hands are bal, you do not want to play 3NT and too bad in this example, maybe H or 44, or block, or are not led. While 5D is always donw even if they do not take their tricks on the opening lead.

I decided against that after reaching 3NT with Jxx facing 3 small. Having denied a S stop (1C 2C 2D 2H 3D) and hearing partner cue S as a last try, I thought Jxx could be enough to cooperate. They cashed 4 tricks and I had the rest. The other table did not have the nerves to bid and lost 3 tricks immediately in 5C. I wish I could have bid as confidently with 3 small as well😁
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