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#1 User is offline   harikannan 

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Posted 2026-October-13, 08:00

Playing IMPs, with opponent's silent, I hold:

64
A3
AQ753
AQJT

and open 1D. Partner bids 1H, I rebid 2C and partner bids 2D.

What should I bid here? Thanks.
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Posted 2026-October-13, 08:48

2h
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Posted 2026-October-13, 08:48



2♠ - asking for a spade stopper

I would have opened 1nt to show partner I have a strong (15-17), balanced hand.
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Posted 2026-October-13, 10:48

View Postjillybean, on 2026-October-13, 08:48, said:

2♠ - asking for a spade stopper

I would have opened 1nt to show partner I have a strong (15-17), balanced hand.


It looks closer to 2nt to me, but still in the mid range so 1♦ is fine.
I too would risk 2♠ at IMPs, partner is not enthusiastic (and not promising many diamonds) but we might make 3NT.
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Posted 2026-October-13, 11:04

How about Pass?

2D is preference, he has a dead min.
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Posted 2026-October-13, 12:03

View PostP_Marlowe, on 2026-October-13, 11:04, said:

How about Pass?

2D is preference, he has a dead min.


At MP I would pass, but at IMPs?
3NT still has chance on some hands and layouts.
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Posted 2026-October-13, 14:00

Wow I disagree
2S is gf
2H shows this hand type, sure you prefer 3 hearts, ...max, strong invite however you can still stop
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Posted 2026-October-13, 17:13

 mike777, on 2026-October-13, 14:00, said:

Wow I disagree
2S is gf
2H shows this hand type, sure you prefer 3 hearts, ...max, strong invite however you can still stop


2H shows 3 cards and non minimum here for me.
2S is forcing but not GF, both already had a chance to game force and they haven't said anything encouraging in the meantime.
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Posted 2026-October-13, 17:27

2♠ is not gf for me, and 2♥ would be 3.
We could have avoided this pickle by opening 1nt
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Posted 2026-October-13, 17:57

2S=4SF

If you never play 4SF as gf , fair enough

I am too old for 1NT, that is for you young high energy folks

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Posted 2026-October-13, 18:09

2S is the third suit, Opener bid 2♣/1♦ ..... does that make any difference?

I'm looking forward to seeing some hands from the Regional with your Diamond Life Master, good luck.
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Posted 2026-October-13, 18:50

I can see why I have communication issues
I see 4 suits bid. But I have old eyes

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Posted 2026-October-13, 19:26

I may have solved many of my subsequent problems by

A. Opening 1NT, or
B. (K&R calculates it as 19+) rebid 3C after 1D.

At MPs, I would happily open 1NT because 5-of-a-minor contracts are avoidable.
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Posted 2026-October-13, 21:37

I felt I was too strong for 1NT opening but chickened out of 3C after some thought.

Isn't 4SF applicable only by responder as the 4th bid in the auction?
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Posted 2026-October-13, 21:46

 harikannan, on 2026-October-13, 21:37, said:

I felt I was too strong for 1NT opening but chickened out of 3C after some thought.

Isn't 4SF applicable only by responder as the 4th bid in the auction?

No

Let me put it this way
Do you think 2S is a forcing bid?
Are spades the fourth suit?

So clearly 2S is 4SF
The only disagreement is forcing to what?
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Posted 2026-October-13, 22:13

View Postmike777, on 2026-October-13, 21:46, said:

No

Let me put it this way
Do you think 2S is a forcing bid?
Are spades the fourth suit?

So clearly 2S is 4SF
The only disagreement is forcing to what?


Agreed. I play 4SF as game force. So, I don't know if I bid 2S here, it would mean a one round force only (if I restrict 4SF as GF only when it is the 4th bid in an auction as I was taught / learnt).
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Posted 2026-October-13, 22:18

&*&*(%$(. just open 1nt
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Posted 2026-October-13, 22:23

View Postjillybean, on 2026-October-13, 22:18, said:

&*&*(%$(. just open 1nt


I don't know what you meant by those symbols, but with such prime values and concentration in 2 suits, 1NT in IMPs is not my style. Instead I would rather bid 3C on my 2nd turn.
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Posted 2026-October-13, 22:27

I'm swearing at my stupidity, 2♠ is fourth suit but it can't be gf after 1♦ 1♥ 2♣
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Posted 2026-October-13, 22:33

 jillybean, on 2026-October-13, 22:27, said:

I'm swearing at my stupidity, 2♠ is fourth suit but it can't be gf after 1♦ 1♥ 2♣

Of course it can be
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