[mike777]

jillybean, on 2026-February-16, 09:39, said:

A little too weak for South to open 2H, even for me

About as pure a 2H opener one could hope for.

[jillybean]

mike777, on 2026-February-16, 09:42, said:

About as pure a 2H opener one could hope for.

Not when partner is expecting 8-10

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[pescetom]

jillybean, on 2026-February-16, 09:36, said:

2♦ Natural xx45 12-14? Perhaps gets too high for those once in a while death hands when we should be in 1nt
the rest of it is too much system for me at the moment

Do not want to overload your system, sorry... but I do advise against a reverse being 12-14, even opposite a passed hand

If you want to keep things basic then just fake the same reverse, as others have said.

[pescetom]

mike777, on 2026-February-16, 09:42, said:

About as pure a 2H opener one could hope for.

You would not be popular in my club

But if 2♥ comes around to East, then a disciplined EW are not going to miss slam.
If North raises to 4♥ then it gets much trickier for East, although anything courageous will probably work out as it happens.

[mike777]

jillybean, on 2026-February-16, 09:47, said:

Not when partner is expecting 8-10

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0-13. Smile

In any case partner will bid even if you pass

[mike777]

pescetom, on 2026-February-16, 10:17, said:

You would not be popular in my club

But if 2♥ comes around to East, then a disciplined EW are not going to miss slam.
If North raises to 4♥ then it gets much trickier for East, although anything courageous will probably work out as it happens.

You are never playing 6C at this vul. but perhaps 5C if MP but your point is taken. Smile

We can't let you Europeans and your fancy fancy systems a silent ride, you will murder us .

[jillybean]

mike777, on 2026-February-16, 10:34, said:

0-13. Smile

In any case partner will bid even if you pass

Does anyone else find it concerning that this is an agreement but multi is banned?
😯

[mike777]

jillybean, on 2026-February-16, 10:42, said:

Does anyone else find it concerning that this is an agreement but multi is banned?
😯

What is banned?
News to me.

Oh ya. No multi, right. I cannot even practice it at the local clubs

[Cyberyeti]

You'd have fun with this board against us

S has to decide whether he opens this with 2♦ (weak only multi) or 2♠ ( weak 5-5 minors or 5-5 reds or a bad 3♥ preempt, might choose the former given the discrepancy in the suits)

So you'll be bidding over 2♦-P-3♠ or 2♠-P-4♦ most likely at this vul.

[pescetom]

Cyberyeti, on 2026-February-16, 12:06, said:

2♠ weak 5-5 minors or 5-5 reds or a bad 3♥ preempt

Is that EBU (or even WBF) legal?

[akwoo]

mike777, on 2026-February-16, 10:34, said:

0-13. Smile

In any case partner will bid even if you pass

Uh - an opening weak 2 with a range of more than 9 hcp isn't allowed in the ACBL...

[mikeh]

jillybean, on 2026-February-16, 09:39, said:

A little too weak for South to open 2H, even for me

While I’m ok passing as south, I wouldn’t pass as north.

Passing in third chair with that north hand is too timid, imo, at any form of scoring. I don’t open 5 card weak twos as often as some…in fact, in my main partnership I can’t…2 H shows 10-13 with 6 hearts. We’ll district with 7 sometimes, but never with 5. So I’d open 1H, since it’s too strong for multi..which we do bid on 5 card suits but only when weaker than this.

Opening light in third seat, with a good major that one wants led, and with some shape (I’d pass with the same hop and heart suit if 5332) makes you more difficult to play against. My (limited) experience is that bridge teachers understandably focus mostly on constructive bidding, and discussion of being difficult opponents is limited to describing or prescribing standards for preemption. That’s fine for beginners and maybe intermediates but advanced players wishing to keep advancing need to recognize how and when to create issues for the OPPs…while recognizing the situations in which partner may be doing this and then cutting him or her some slack. Of course, that doesn’t extend to fielding psyches unless and until the suction tells you that partner can’t have his values.

Edit: I’d have no issue with anyone who opened a weak multi in first chair. 5=5 is not even in the same area code as 5332.

[Cyberyeti]

pescetom, on 2026-February-16, 12:18, said:

Is that EBU (or even WBF) legal?

EBU legal provided none of the options have the suit bid in them

[mike777]

akwoo, on 2026-February-16, 12:49, said:

Uh - an opening weak 2 with a range of more than 9 hcp isn't allowed in the ACBL...

Ty very much for updating information

Have corrected range.

Any other alerts, pre alerts, restrictions on one suited natural weak two and three openings?

[jillybean]

I spoke to a couple of pairs today who got to 6 after North came in with 2H

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We had a ball in the Swiss today. Women's Team, with about 650 masterpoints, 600 of those are mine which was what I had pre covid prior to giving up membership.
This was my teammates first Swiss.
Our first match was against a team with about 50,000 master points, including Canada's #9 and #26.
We came away from the first match +10 which certainly set the tone for the day

[mikeh]

jillybean, on 2026-February-16, 20:53, said:

I spoke to a couple of pairs today who got to 6 after North came in with 2H

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We had a ball in the Swiss today. Women's Team, with about 650 masterpoints, 600 of those are mine which was what I had pre covid prior to giving up membership.
This was my teammates first Swiss.
Our first match was against a team with about 50,000 master points, including Canada's #9 and #26.
We came away from the first match +10 which certainly set the tone for the day

Congratulations. Both of those guys are friends, and Dan is an occasional partner and frequent teammate. Well done.

[bluenikki]

pescetom, on 2026-February-16, 12:18, said:

Is that EBU (or even WBF) legal?

It has a known suit, so I believe it is legal at most levels in north america

[jillybean]

mikeh, on 2026-February-17, 01:07, said:

Congratulations. Both of those guys are friends, and Dan is an occasional partner and frequent teammate. Well done.

Thanks Mike. The win against this team was of course an aberration. I didn't tell my teammates who they were playing against until the end of the match.
As they day went on we settled to the bottom of the pond where we belonged but had only one round in the RR. I think my Teammates had a great day and commented how kind and helpful their opponents were, happy to explain systems and suggest defences. No self respecting player who wants to improve should ever play in BCD. Sorry, I know I offend players by saying this but it is a totally different game.

[Cyberyeti]

bluenikki, on 2026-February-17, 05:17, said:

It has a known suit, so I believe it is legal at most levels in north america

It doesn't, it's just that it's a spade bid and the options are ♣/♦ or ♦/♥ or ♥ only, so spades not among the options, thus legal in UK

[pescetom]

 bluenikki, on 2026-February-17, 05:17, said:

It has a known suit, so I believe it is legal at most levels in north america

If I parsed it correctly, it does not have a suit that is common to all three possibilities.