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Double jump after a takeout double Misunderstanding

#1 User is offline   mikl_plkcc 

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Posted 2025-April-18, 03:16



I thought my 4 was preemptive but why is it a strong hand in the robot system? Then I accidentally passed a cuebid because I didn't expect I showed a strong hand!

What was the correct bid to the takeout double to preempt the opponents?
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Posted 2025-April-18, 04:14

There isn't one, because the robots aren't very good.
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Posted 2025-April-18, 18:06

View Postmikl_plkcc, on 2025-April-18, 03:16, said:

I thought my 4 was preemptive but why is it a strong hand in the robot system? Then I accidentally passed a cuebid because I didn't expect I showed a strong hand!

GIB wasn't programmed to bid by the best bidding standards of the day. That's just the way it is. Probably 3 is the closest GIB bid to the actual hand, but I'm just guessing.

Next, 5 is a horrendous bid, so 4 should have worked out OK since any human would have passed. Obviously GIB is not human. 17+ total points is definitely a GIB hand evaluation. Why are you passing 5? Why not take 5 seconds and check the meaning of 5 instead of making a very bad guess?
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Posted 2025-April-19, 01:39

In a normal set of agreements 4 should be fine on this hand.

But you play with robots. It has agreed with you 4 means 5+s, 14+ Total points. Counting a point for the 6th and 2 for each of the singletons you are about an ace short for your bid. Had you had either extra Ace, 6! would have been a good contract. So 5 makes perfect sense.

One hint (not sure if this works on phones) when playing on a computer, hover over the bid your plan to make before clicking on it, is annotates what it means. If it doesn't match your hand, look for other bids that do.
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