[mikl_plkcc]

What is the standard way to bid the following shape as the responder, in a 5-card major system, after the auction goes 1♥ - 1♠ - 2♥?

5=0=5=3 and 6-9 TP. How to find a possible ♠ fit?
5=1=4=3, 6-9 TP or 10-12 TP with the 3-card suit unstopped. How to find a possible ♠ fit, or to decide if NT is playable?
4=1=4=4 or 5=0=4=4, 6-9 TP. How to find a better fit?

[hrothgar]

mikl_plkcc, on 2025-April-17, 06:21, said:

What is the standard way to bid the following shape as the responder, in a 5-card major system, after the auction goes 1♥ - 1♠ - 2♥?

> 5=0=5=3 and 6-9 TP. How to find a possible ♠ fit?

You pass.
Best to get out as cheaply as possible.

Note: Some people will raise 1♠ to 2♠ holding, say, a 3=5=4=1 with Hxx in Spades
This decreases the likelihood that you have a spade fit somewhat.

> 5=1=4=3, 6-9 TP

You pass, even more happily

> 10-12 TP with the 3-card suit unstopped.
> w to find a possible ♠ fit, or to decide if NT is playable?

This is an awkward range.
If you have sufficient strength to force game you can bid checkback at the three level.

> 4=1=4=4 or 5=0=4=4, 6-9 TP. How to find a better fit?

Kick partner's left leg with the 4=1=4=4 and their right leg with the 5=0=4=4

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

the 2H rebid showed a 6 carder and basically denies a side 4 card suit, i.e. if any bid propels you to the 3 level, the contract needs to
play at least 2 tricks better than 2H.
In general, if you have no fit, you get out, no fit ... no bid. And a lack of fit is a reason to downgrade, you don't bid NT out of fear.
If you have 4441 you have a 7 card fit, you are happy playing on the 2 level, you wont be less happy to play the 43 on the 3 level.
If you have a 5 card spade suit, you may catch a 53, but the odds are 1:2 against this, and a 5-2 will play worse than a 6-1.
And yes, sometimes a 5-3 would have existed.
As it is, there are methods to show a possible 5th spade after a 1H opening at once, but they come with a price, as always.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[mw64ahw]

One possible method referred to above is KI5 where
1♥-1♠ F1 0-4♠ weak, 5+♠ GI/GF, 3♥ lim
&
1♥-1N is 5+♠ weak
2♥-3m 50(53) pass/correct
I've yet to identify a net cost to this approach.

Alternatively play
1♥-1♠ as 5+♠
&
1♥-1N
.. 2♣ 6+♥, 4♦, 4+♣ str
.. 2♦ 4♠, 4+♦ str
.. 2♥ 5♥4+♣