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#1 User is offline   akwoo 

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Posted 2024-November-28, 12:47



The 3 is lead to the K and your Ace. (Not a very good overcall, huh?) Whenever you cash the first spade, you'll find out West has none. Plan the play (matchpoints).
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Posted 2024-November-28, 12:53

why didn't I pass the X?
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Posted 2024-November-28, 13:11

Why didn't I rebid 2NT?
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Posted 2024-November-28, 13:47

Given the actual lie of the cards, 4N can be made but 4H can't.

If you rebid 2N, you're frequently going to be playing in 3N when you should be in 4H - partner rates to be 5=2=3=3 quite often.
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Posted 2024-November-28, 13:48

Well, here we are.
I think I need to set up my heart tricks while maintaining entries and control..
Off the top of my head I’ll play a heart , spade, rough a spade then low heart, hoping for 3-3 split
I could give it more thought later
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Posted 2024-November-28, 14:21

View Postjillybean, on 2024-November-28, 13:48, said:

rough a spade

Methinks you're still wondering why we didn't pass the double :) I've forgotten what contract I'm in playing with a robot enough times because I was focused on what the auction should have been, I understand!

Will probably start with a low diamond back to the 9, and if it holds a low club, but I don't really know what my plan is.
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Posted 2024-November-28, 15:28

Just seen this.
I thought one of the few comprehensible calls after the opening by anyone except N was 2, but the play says this was wrong too :)
Will think.

In the meantime, did any of your energic minds register the other play problem here?
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Posted 2024-November-28, 15:57

My first thought is that W cannot be as bad as I am, so if his diamonds were not kosher his hearts mean business.
So I cover K with A and then play hearts to K.
I then lay down spades A and K (pitching a heart), does W follow?
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Posted 2024-November-28, 16:27

View Postakwoo, on 2024-November-28, 13:47, said:

Given the actual lie of the cards, 4N can be made but 4H can't.

If you rebid 2N, you're frequently going to be playing in 3N when you should be in 4H - partner rates to be 5=2=3=3 quite often.

Nonsense. The odds that he has 3 diamonds are vanishingly low after the overcall
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Posted 2024-November-28, 23:04

View Postmikeh, on 2024-November-28, 16:27, said:

Nonsense. The odds that he has 3 diamonds are vanishingly low after the overcall


Keep in mind this is at a club where the standards of play are incomprehensibly low to you. Let's just say that, if I showed you all 4 hands and the results at both tables (in a 2.5 table game) for that problem I have in the Beginners forum, you'd be scratching your head.

For the purposes of this problem, I can say that West did not have a 2 overcall (East had a second diamond(!) but that's irrelevant to this problem) but did have a double of 4.
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